Ferdinand or Hector ?

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Ferdinand or Hector ?

by fred sharpes nose » 31 Oct 2015 21:28

Who should partner McShane now that Ferdinand is back fit. Talking to my sad statto alter-ego I'm told

League 14 games
Ferdinand starts 5 - win 2 draw 3 lose 0 ppg 1.8
Hector starts 9 - win 4 draw 2 lose 3 ppg 1.5

League Cup
Doesn't make a fair reflection
Ferdinand start 2 win both
Hector start 2 win 1 lose 1
Ferdinand played Colchester, both played against Pompey, Hector played against Everton

I think Ferdinand needs a run in the team, brings a calm head to side. At times Hector can let his emotions take over and exhibit all the traits needed to be a successful Chelsea player - cocky, gobby, and with an inflated view of his own ability/importance

Think McShane (who is our best signing IMO) could do with some support at the moment

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Re: Ferdinand or Hector ?

by bishmanbosh92 » 31 Oct 2015 21:48

Ferdinand all day .

They had a good partnership Building before he got injured , Last two games Hector has been dreadful and just does his own thing , need to get the defense locked back up !

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Re: Ferdinand or Hector ?

by Ian Royal » 31 Oct 2015 22:00

I think Hector gets one more game's grace before I'd bring Ferdie back in. He wasn't horrendous today, just a little weak. And he offers a better range of passing (on his day) the ability to drive forward and a little extra pace than McShane or Ferdinand. But Ferdinand was very good when he was fit,.

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Re: Ferdinand or Hector ?

by blueroyals » 01 Nov 2015 00:22

Thought he had a shocker today by his standards. Was suspect against Fulham too. Ferdinand if fit please.

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Re: Ferdinand or Hector ?

by Snowball » 01 Nov 2015 08:54

Ferdinand, if fit.

Ferdinand-McShane is a dream pairing at this level



Hector, on average, is a very good CB, but he's too inconsistent, always has a mistake in him (counterbalanced by occasional brilliance) but CBs should be like McShane, 99% reliable, predictable, first on the team-sheet.


I think (if Ferdinand is genuinely fit) that Ferdinand-McShane is the perfect balance.

If Hector was "ours" (not Chelsea's) we'd see him getting bits of game time, ready to take over next season.


I don't think he's BAD, and Chelsea's 4M says someone agrees, but I think his mental side is lacking and he needs to cut out the errors, even if that makes him (temporarily) look more ordinary.

I would love to hear what John Terry pre 2015 would say to him if he made such errors alongside him!

Which makes me wonder, is McShane vocal, does Hector think he's the finished article?


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Re: Ferdinand or Hector ?

by Pepe the Horseman » 01 Nov 2015 19:42

Hector. Getting far more stick than he deserves.

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Re: Ferdinand or Hector ?

by tidus_mi2 » 01 Nov 2015 19:47

I'd stick with Hector for now but he probably needs to improve a bit, he'll end up being better than both McShane and Ferdinand but I suppose that's to Chelsea's gain now.

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Re: Ferdinand or Hector ?

by sandman » 01 Nov 2015 20:10

Ferdinand every week, send Hector to Vitesse.

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Re: Ferdinand or Hector ?

by leon » 01 Nov 2015 22:09

Ferdinand. Less impulsive. If we hadn't sold Hector to that dreadful club we ought to be developing him. But we have and we don't need to.


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Re: Ferdinand or Hector ?

by Lower West » 01 Nov 2015 22:48

Pepe the Horseman Hector. Getting far more stick than he deserves.


Agree. Only made 54 starts for Reading. Hard to believe. The more he plays the better he'll get.

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Re: Ferdinand or Hector ?

by Snowball » 02 Nov 2015 05:58

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Pepe the Horseman Hector. Getting far more stick than he deserves.


Agree. Only made 54 starts for Reading. Hard to believe. The more he plays the better he'll get.





Except in about 30-35 games time he'll be gone...

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Re: Ferdinand or Hector ?

by tee peg » 02 Nov 2015 09:40

Hector is too Jekyll and Hyde for my liking.Great prospect though.

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Re: Ferdinand or Hector ?

by melonhead » 02 Nov 2015 10:30

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Pepe the Horseman Hector. Getting far more stick than he deserves.


Agree. Only made 54 starts for Reading. Hard to believe. The more he plays the better he'll get.





Except in about 30-35 games time he'll be gone...


I think its all part of a cunning plan to get Chelsea to loan him back again next season.


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Re: Ferdinand or Hector ?

by russyb » 02 Nov 2015 10:55

Ferdinand for me.

Hector has been terrible the last 2-3 games, granted he made a good move for our goal on Saturday but otherwise he has made so many mistakes recently. At Fulham for example he was bad from the 1st minute to the last. If Ferdinand is fit i would like to see him come in.

incidentally when i right click the word Fulham spell check suggested "shameful" :D

not that i needed to spell check by the way.

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Re: Ferdinand or Hector ?

by Pepe the Horseman » 02 Nov 2015 13:21

russyb Ferdinand for me.

Hector has been terrible the last 2-3 games, granted he made a good move for our goal on Saturday but otherwise he has made so many mistakes recently. At Fulham for example he was bad from the 1st minute to the last. If Ferdinand is fit i would like to see him come in.

incidentally when i right click the word Fulham spell check suggested "shameful" :D

not that i needed to spell check by the way.

He was probably our best player at Rotherham.

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Re: Ferdinand or Hector ?

by Sanguine » 02 Nov 2015 14:18

Yep, he was great at Rotherham, has just had a couple of Hector 'moments' in the last couple of games. Rather than the opposite being true as I expected, he's actually got (imho) more Chelsea-worthy since he signed for them, he is very much growing as a player.

I'd stick with Hector, he is ours until May - at least, I have a feeling he might be back again next season - and his pace and ability coming out of defence trumps Ferdinand as a steady-eddie, for now.

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Re: Ferdinand or Hector ?

by Forbury Lion » 02 Nov 2015 14:28

Snowball does Hector think he's the finished article?
dropping him for Ferdinand would certainly send him a message that he isn't.

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Re: Ferdinand or Hector ?

by loyalroyal4life » 02 Nov 2015 16:14

Ferdinand and Mcshane has been our best partnership to date

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