Seol or Rosenior?

[Riseley]

Seol will make us pay for discarding him in such a callous fashion. He gave blood, sweat and tears for RFC all to no avail as far as the boo boys were concerned.

[brendywendy]

now i know seol was ok at the start
but he nosedived so quickly
anyone could see he just wasnt interested, and generally a bit sulky about no-one else recognising him as being the best player in the world
despite being given every chance to prove himself he never did.
why is he at the top of your >>> list
becuase to be frank he dont deserve it
maybe if he had played to 90-100% potential whenever he had played
but i can count his truly good games on three fingers
on the evidence as a whole id have to say that oster>rosenior>seol
it would have been good to be able to bring him on to change games occasionally, but he wasnt going to settle for anything other than 1st choice 1st team footy
i give him about two months to start moaning about fulham,

and rosenior has looked pretty good whenever ive seen him
perhaps not away from home
but he works his socks off, has a great attitude, has got in a few goalscoring positions, taken set pieces, and put in a few decent crosses
not sure what the lads done to deserve any scorn from the dark corners of Hob Nob

[Riseley]

When Rosenior scores goals such as Seol's beauty at UP the boy can be mentioned in the same breath as Korea's finest.

[Behindu]

While it's hard to compare the two, Rosenior was purchased by Coppell to play right wing, not right back and most of this board said what a great move it was and what a great winger Rosenior would be. Anyone who dared suggest Rosenior was a right back and swapping him for our only right winger was not a good idea, was of course branded a clueless idiot.

I'm not sure that really bears any resembelance to the truth though does it ?
I'm certain Coppell did not take Rosenior as a winger, although I'm equally certain he's more than just a full back.

[Alan Partridge]

When Rosenior scores goals such as Seol's beauty at UP the boy can be mentioned in the same breath as Korea's finest.

People that knock Seol say ahh that was at the start of the season

But

He was our best player against Boro as well as winning vital points at Sheffield United and West Ham.

Had we lost those 3 games at the start of last season our season would have almost certainly taken a different shape.

Seol too was played out of position, played up front at times to indifferent effect.

He wanted to go and went, personally disappointed to see him go because he was our best available right wing option, a very skillful player with the ability to create and score goals.

But 90% of Reading fans prefer 'triers'. Sad state of affairs.

[Behindu]

But 90% of Reading fans prefer 'triers'. Sad state of affairs.

Not as sad as not realising you need both types.

A team full of Seol's would win you nothing.

A team full of Roseniors would win you nothing.

[brendywendy]

When Rosenior scores goals such as Seol's beauty at UP the boy can be mentioned in the same breath as Korea's finest.

People that knock Seol say ahh that was at the start of the season

But

He was our best player against Boro as well as winning vital points at Sheffield United and West Ham.

Had we lost those 3 games at the start of last season our season would have almost certainly taken a different shape.

Seol too was played out of position, played up front at times to indifferent effect.

He wanted to go and went, personally disappointed to see him go because he was our best available right wing option, a very skillful player with the ability to create and score goals.

But 90% of Reading fans prefer 'triers'. Sad state of affairs.

sorry

but trying is the absolute bare minimum i expect from a player

and he couldnt even do that by the end

yes he scored a few goals
but you said it yourself, he was our best player in 1 game

and id dispute that if i had anything other than hazy recollection of that wonderful day

[Alan Partridge]

But 90% of Reading fans prefer 'triers'. Sad state of affairs.

Not as sad as not realising you need both types.

A team full of Seol's would win you nothing.

A team full of Roseniors would win you nothing.

so why is it that we get ONE of the 'Seol types' in our team and they get slaughtered by the fans until they go?

Lita is next on this list btw.

[Alan Partridge]

When Rosenior scores goals such as Seol's beauty at UP the boy can be mentioned in the same breath as Korea's finest.

People that knock Seol say ahh that was at the start of the season

But

He was our best player against Boro as well as winning vital points at Sheffield United and West Ham.

Had we lost those 3 games at the start of last season our season would have almost certainly taken a different shape.

Seol too was played out of position, played up front at times to indifferent effect.

He wanted to go and went, personally disappointed to see him go because he was our best available right wing option, a very skillful player with the ability to create and score goals.

But 90% of Reading fans prefer 'triers'. Sad state of affairs.

sorry

but trying is the absolute bare minimum i expect from a player

and he couldnt even do that by the end

yes he scored a few goals
but you said it yourself, he was our best player in 1 game

and id dispute that if i had anything other than hazy recollection of that wonderful day

Erm no, i mentioned he was the best player in the Boro, he was the best player in more than 1 game while at Reading. Something more than Rosenior already.

how do you know Seol didn't try? Was it because he didn't run 50 yards to slide in like a maniac, only to get himself sent off while mugs aorund the ground stand and applaud the player thats just cost Reading any chance of getting some points?

People 'try' in different ways. Again back to styles of play. I suppose Seol was just trying to show off to all the Koreans that came to our games.

[Scarface]

But 90% of Reading fans prefer 'triers'. Sad state of affairs.

Every professional footballer should try. Look at Man Utd and Arsenal, they won't keep players that don't work hard as well as having great skill.

[Behindu]

so why is it that we get ONE of the 'Seol types' in our team and they get slaughtered by the fans until they go?

Lita is next on this list btw.

Seol didn't get 'slaughtered'
And he didn;t get driven out by the fans.
And according to Ffloyd we have Oster who is the same 'type' as Seol ...
Little is also the same 'type' and he doesn;t get slaughtered.

[Stranded]

But 90% of Reading fans prefer 'triers'. Sad state of affairs.

Not as sad as not realising you need both types.

A team full of Seol's would win you nothing.

A team full of Roseniors would win you nothing.

so why is it that we get ONE of the 'Seol types' in our team and they get slaughtered by the fans until they go?

Lita is next on this list btw.

Seol's problem was that he was compared directly to Little. A player with bags of skill who also can be seen to be putting in the effort in parts of the game that aren't his strength ie tracking back & defending.

Something that noticeably Seol didn't do with great regularity hence the stick from some.

I was sad to see him go as well. Ideally I'd have liked to have kept him and brought Rosenior on board too.

[brendywendy]

i was among seols biggest defenders on here, and at the ground
i really wanted him to prove the boo boys, and the wolves fans completely wrong, something he never did, despite plenty of chances

but by the end, he really wasnt worth playing.especially when he started murmuring about fulham, copps had no chpice letting him go
if that hadnt happened hed still be here getting the chance to prove what a talent he is

even when he did bother turning up he still was never the best player on the park, not when i watched a game.you only ever got flashes

though im not disputing he perhaps had the potential to be.

and WTF has rosenior done to criticize him for?, ive seen nothing but hard work, application, and some solid performances out of position so far
and will be more than happy when he replaces murts upon retirement

[Alan Partridge]

so why is it that we get ONE of the 'Seol types' in our team and they get slaughtered by the fans until they go?

Lita is next on this list btw.

Seol didn't get 'slaughtered'
And he didn;t get driven out by the fans.
And according to Ffloyd we have Oster who is the same 'type' as Seol ...
Little is also the same 'type' and he doesn;t get slaughtered.

Yes he did, Seol got battered on these forums. He didn't ge tmuch if any support from the fans and it MAY have aided his decision.

Oster isn't the same type, he's not as good.

Little is a similar type to seol but unfortunately won't play for Reading again.

[Alan Partridge]

But 90% of Reading fans prefer 'triers'. Sad state of affairs.

Every professional footballer should try. Look at Man Utd and Arsenal, they won't keep players that don't work hard as well as having great skill.

Pires never made a tackle for Arsenal in about 5 years. Nor Henry. Give the ball away and sod it let someone else win it back.

Players like that and Seol in our team were there to win Reading games. You've got to have players like that. You can't have a team of Hunt's. 90% perspiration 10% inspiration.

[Royal Rother]

Over the course of the last 6 years I have often been ridiculed (it hurts and scars you know! ) for my love of entertaining football, to a certain extent over and above the result.

But the thing that winds me up more than anything else in footballers is those who consistently give possession away cheaply, either through trying something far too extravagant for their individual skillset or through carelessness and lack of concentration or through blatant attempts at cheating / diving.

Seol and Lita can both be entertainers but they have both had tendencies to give away possession far too cheaply, through a selection of the above means.

The thing that places Lita way above the ultimately infuriating Seol in my eyes is that, whatever his faults, whatever his motives, most of the time he oozes desire and really wants to be a winner. Seol had no fight in him.

[Riseley]

Seol has a lazy running action but is deceptively quick and is a very nice laid back non aggressive poor tackling kind of guy. You cannot make a kitten into a tiger.

[comeonthebiscuitmen]

When Rosenior scores goals such as Seol's beauty at UP the boy can be mentioned in the same breath as Korea's finest.

People that knock Seol say ahh that was at the start of the season

But

He was our best player against Boro as well as winning vital points at Sheffield United and West Ham.

Had we lost those 3 games at the start of last season our season would have almost certainly taken a different shape.

Seol too was played out of position, played up front at times to indifferent effect.

He wanted to go and went, personally disappointed to see him go because he was our best available right wing option, a very skillful player with the ability to create and score goals.

But 90% of Reading fans prefer 'triers'. Sad state of affairs.

Is it just Reading fans that prefer triers? hard work/getting up and down/getting stuck in can be seen as a good quality but i know what you mean.

Parky was the archetypal trier.

In a poll of fans all time favourite players would he be top 3? top 5?


all together now:

Get into 'em

Fu4k 'em up

[Alan Partridge]

spot the difference mate

Parky - bottom of Divison 2. He was desperately needed at that time, and he is my favourite player ever. For being the only one who gave a shit back then. But he wasn't a bad footballer either.

'Seol type' - PREMIER League. Need more than perspiration now.

[Behindu]

Yes he did, Seol got battered on these forums. He didn't ge tmuch if any support from the fans and it MAY have aided his decision.

Oster isn't the same type, he's not as good.

Little is a similar type to seol but unfortunately won't play for Reading again.

Bizarre, less than positive comments on nerdy football site drive international footballer out of club !!
Do you REALLY believe that !!

There isn't a player at the club that hasn't had a bit of flak from time to time (go on, which current Reading player has had 100% coverage on here....)

Oster is the same type. Why say he isn;t ?

Nice to see your medical diagnosis of Little. It's wrong by the way !