SC hasn't a clue.

[Alan Partridge]

whatever the outcome, it is never good business to spend every penny of the money available

Has ANYONE EVER said that's the way to go though?

Even if the reported £30million a season for Premiership football is way off the mark plus the £16million over 2 years of parachute money + the recouped sales of players, Reading have been ridiculously tight on the pursestrings.

It's the main reason they are back in this league anyway.

[Royal Lady]

Spot on AP - and THAT'S the reason so many of us are critical.

[Woodcote Royal]

Sanchez has achieved nothing in the past 5 years unless I am missing something? He was sacked by Fulham... big achievement!!

He turned NI round from being a team that couldn't score a goal in something like a dozen matches and hadn't won a game for 3 years into a team that beat England and Spain in competitive qualifying games. He also turned David Healy into the worlds most deadly international forward for a while!

Apparently he took them from 124th to an all time high of 27th in the FIFA rankings.

I think that's some achievement.

Nope... an achievement in international football is qualifying and winning tournaments surely... not to pull a team up to 27th in the FIFA rankings!

It would, of course, be SO convenient for you if this was the case but when the International team in question is Northern Ireland, it's nothing short of laughable.

[Alan Partridge]

Wise words AP, but Sanchez has always come across as some sour-puss that thinks the world owes him a favour. Could be all wrong, but that's my estimation of him as a man. He doesn't seem to be one to inspire a dressing room (but you could say that about Coppell.)

Then again, I flinched when Pardew was named manager and he turned out 'alright', not discounting the upward career move.

Who knows who we'll end up with should Coppell leave...but I'll take almost anyone who's half decent but doesn't have Reading connections.

Another fine example. Up and down career as a manager. Here excellent in the main, West Ham fairly good, Charlton disaster. I've met Pards btw and he was a total arrogant arse, end of the dayI don't particularly care as long as Reading were getting results.

I am not saying Sanchez for RFC but I agree with Woodcote that he's a realistic candidate. I would LOVE to see someone like Martinez at Reading producing his brand of football to go and watch personally, but i doubt that will happen.

To belittle his work both at Wycombe and Northern ireland is just borderline moronic. Picking League 2 plaers who go out and beat England and European Champions Spain, to say it's not success that a team containing Kyle Lafferty, Keith Gillespie and Colin Murdock aren't winning European and World Cups is the most ridiculous thing I've heard on here today, more so than Ian Royal's defense for Peter Taylor.


End of the day what Sancez has done good at Wycombe an Northern Ireland and not so good at Fulham (even though hekept them up the 1st year) means practically nothing with regard to what he would do at Reading. He might be a massive success or might flop. Who knows.

[Royal_Belly]

He turned NI round from being a team that couldn't score a goal in something like a dozen matches and hadn't won a game for 3 years into a team that beat England and Spain in competitive qualifying games. He also turned David Healy into the worlds most deadly international forward for a while!

Apparently he took them from 124th to an all time high of 27th in the FIFA rankings.

I think that's some achievement.

Nope... an achievement in international football is qualifying and winning tournaments surely... not to pull a team up to 27th in the FIFA rankings! [/quote]

In my opinion an achievement in international football is to make the most of what you have at your disposal and get the best results possible for your team.

It is pretty much impossible for NI to qualify for a tournament let alone win it!

International football is different to League football though so I wouldn't take it as great evidence of suitability for a club job and I'm still not a fan of having Sanchez at Reading. I can see an achievement when it's right infront of me though.[/quote]

So if International and club football are completley different his "achievements" over the past 5 years don't count for anything then!

[boy1985]

It would, of course, be SO convenient for you if this was the case but when the International team in question is Northern Ireland, it's nothing short of laughable.

not really?...

He did well for NI yeah but he still didn't get them to qualify for any tournaments, worse teams have been to world cups than them. He also had no real pressure on him as no-one expected anything from them.
Plus this was a few years ago now and he has since failed yet again in club management.

[Schards#2]

Wise words AP, but Sanchez has always come across as some sour-puss that thinks the world owes him a favour. Could be all wrong, but that's my estimation of him as a man. He doesn't seem to be one to inspire a dressing room (but you could say that about Coppell.)

Then again, I flinched when Pardew was named manager and he turned out 'alright', not discounting the upward career move.

Who knows who we'll end up with should Coppell leave...but I'll take almost anyone who's half decent but doesn't have Reading connections.

Another fine example. Up and down career as a manager. Here excellent in the main, West Ham fairly good, Charlton disaster. I've met Pards btw and he was a total arrogant arse, end of the dayI don't particularly care as long as Reading were getting results.

I am not saying Sanchez for RFC but I agree with Woodcote that he's a realistic candidate. I would LOVE to see someone like Martinez at Reading producing his brand of football to go and watch personally, but i doubt that will happen.

To belittle his work both at Wycombe and Northern ireland is just borderline moronic. Picking League 2 plaers who go out and beat England and European Champions Spain, to say it's not success that a team containing Kyle Lafferty, Keith Gillespie and Colin Murdock aren't winning European and World Cups is the most ridiculous thing I've heard on here today, more so than Ian Royal's defense for Peter Taylor.


End of the day what Sancez has done good at Wycombe an Northern Ireland and not so good at Fulham (even though hekept them up the 1st year) means practically nothing with regard to what he would do at Reading. He might be a massive success or might flop. Who knows.

TBF AP, he had five games in his first season at Fulham, lost three, drew one and won against a famously weak Liverpool side, much to the disapproval of Colin IIRC ( ). They may have stayed up but I don't know that it was due to Sanchez. They then seriously tanked the following year.

[Wycombe Royal]

plus the £16million over 2 years of parachute money

It's around £11m per season, so make that £22m over the 2 years.

[Alan Partridge]

It would, of course, be SO convenient for you if this was the case but when the International team in question is Northern Ireland, it's nothing short of laughable.

not really?...

He did well for NI yeah but he still didn't get them to qualify for any tournaments, worse teams have been to world cups than them. He also had no real pressure on him as no-one expected anything from them.
Plus this was a few years ago now and he has since failed yet again in club management.

LOL

did you see the team he inherited, who hadn't scored for 9 games, were 127th in the rankings and one of the worst ranked teams in europe at the time?

Some of you lot scare me honestly. To raise questions over his club management is absolutely fair enough, there aren't any promotions on his CV just two Fa Cup Semi's, and a questionable time at Fulham, that's fair enough. But to belittle the achievement at Northern Ireland is borderline insanity.

[Hoop Blah]

They count as achievements and have certainly raised his stock and reputation as a manager but personally I think there are enough differences between international football and club football to mean that, in my opinion, it's not a great indicator of success.

It does however show a basic aptitude for good management and most international appointments are made on the back of good club records.

As AP has said, it's very difficult to accurately predict when a manager will be successful as managers can have great success at one club and fail miserably at another. My personal opinion is that a lot of it comes down to how the personality fits with the club and the powers that be coupled with the basic management skills.

A lot of it is being the right person in the right place at the right time.

[boy1985]

LOL

did you see the team he inherited, who hadn't scored for 9 games, were 127th in the rankings and one of the worst ranked teams in europe at the time?

Some of you lot scare me honestly. To raise questions over his club management is absolutely fair enough, there aren't any promotions on his CV just two Fa Cup Semi's, and a questionable time at Fulham, that's fair enough. But to belittle the achievement at Northern Ireland is borderline insanity.

I'm not belittling what he did, we all know what he achieved. But it wasn't so great that 4 years on it qualifies him for the Reading job.

[Alan Partridge]

LOL

did you see the team he inherited, who hadn't scored for 9 games, were 127th in the rankings and one of the worst ranked teams in europe at the time?

Some of you lot scare me honestly. To raise questions over his club management is absolutely fair enough, there aren't any promotions on his CV just two Fa Cup Semi's, and a questionable time at Fulham, that's fair enough. But to belittle the achievement at Northern Ireland is borderline insanity.

I'm not belittling what he did, we all know what he achieved. But it wasn't so great that 4 years on it qualifies him for the Reading job.

All I'm saying is he'd be a candidate, He wouldn't be my personal first choice, but whose to say someone like Martinez or Ferguson would leave their clubs for Reading? it may come down to someone who isn't with a club currently. Sanchez lives locally, I believe gets on well with folk at the club now,ex player, he might be someone they look at.

[papereyes]

Sanchez has achieved nothing in the past 5 years unless I am missing something? He was sacked by Fulham... big achievement!!

He turned NI round from being a team that couldn't score a goal in something like a dozen matches and hadn't won a game for 3 years into a team that beat England and Spain in competitive qualifying games. He also turned David Healy into the worlds most deadly international forward for a while!

Apparently he took them from 124th to an all time high of 27th in the FIFA rankings.

I think that's some achievement.

Nope... an achievement in international football is qualifying and winning tournaments surely... not to pull a team up to 27th in the FIFA rankings!

Sorry but given the very nature of the beast, then you have to look at how the team does given that there's about two tournaments he can win and the sheer difference in resources between Norn Iron (about 2 million people) and even England, Germany and Spain (about 60, 82 and 45 million people respectively).

[Royal_Belly]

LOL

did you see the team he inherited, who hadn't scored for 9 games, were 127th in the rankings and one of the worst ranked teams in europe at the time?

Some of you lot scare me honestly. To raise questions over his club management is absolutely fair enough, there aren't any promotions on his CV just two Fa Cup Semi's, and a questionable time at Fulham, that's fair enough. But to belittle the achievement at Northern Ireland is borderline insanity.

You scare me if you think that Lawrie Sanchez's "achievements" at club and international level are worthy enough for him to be a manager with any championship team let alone Reading - it would seriously be a step back imo.

Reading need to get in a manager who 1. will look to develop and bring in the youth players and 2. will attract good players to the football club! Lawrie Sanchez will defo not attract good players.

[Royal Lady]

If Sanchez was so bloody good - why isn't he managing a team at the moment?

[Hoop Blah]

It would, of course, be SO convenient for you if this was the case but when the International team in question is Northern Ireland, it's nothing short of laughable.

not really?...

He did well for NI yeah but he still didn't get them to qualify for any tournaments, worse teams have been to world cups than them. He also had no real pressure on him as no-one expected anything from them.
Plus this was a few years ago now and he has since failed yet again in club management.

The reason they didn't qualify was because they were placed in difficult groups as 4th or 5th seeded teams by virtue of their previously shocking record. That means you get 3 or 4 teams in your group who are supposedly better than you which makes qualifying that much harder.

Sanchez's time with NI, and their rapid climb up the rankings, has made the next set of qualifying campaigns that bit easier.

His failing was one short stint at Fulham, where he originally did ok but then tried to overhaul the team too dramatically and the side was too disjointed. That wasn't a good bit of management but it shouldn't over shaddow his previous good work.

I'd still not want him at Reading though.

[boy1985]

All I'm saying is he'd be a candidate, He wouldn't be my personal first choice, but whose to say someone like Martinez or Ferguson would leave their clubs for Reading? it may come down to someone who isn't with a club currently. Sanchez lives locally, I believe gets on well with folk at the club now,ex player, he might be someone they look at.

Knowing what JM is like i probably agree with you there actually, especially as I reckon Sanchez would ask for less ££££ than Martinez or Ferguson.

It would be the wrong desion though

[Alan Partridge]

If Sanchez was so bloody good - why isn't he managing a team at the moment?

Again to the other extreme,no one has said 'he's so bloody good' just giving reasons as to why he MIGHT be a candidate.

he wouldn't be my choice if I had my way and said managers would leave their current employers.

[papereyes]

and

the club has money to spend, the club has more money to spend than it has spent

thats just good business.

Not if it fails though surely?!

Well yeah!

There's also a continuum between "not spending a penny" and "spending all of it bar a penny".

It's only good business if it works. If it doesn't work, then there's surely money in reserve to help out in the situation. Surely.

[Hoop Blah]

If Sanchez was so bloody good - why isn't he managing a team at the moment?

Because he's been waiting for Coppell to leave at the end of the season!!!!!