How Long Will BM Last at this rate?????

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Re: How Long Will BM Last at this rate?????

by Ian Royal » 04 Mar 2013 17:59

RockheadRumple What the f/ck does everyone actually want then, eh? If we lose playing 4-5-1 then the majority demands 4-4-2, but then we lose playing 4-4-2 and everyone is asking for 4-5-1 again. If you're going to complain at least have some solid f/cking basis for your own actual arguement rather than just being really bloody thick.

I certainly haven't called for us to play 4-4-2. I think you'll find it's different people calling for different things. HNA isn't a single entity constantly contradicting itself, it's lots of different people with different views.

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by Ian Royal » 04 Mar 2013 18:01

Extended-Phenotype When asked on BBC Berks why Guthrie didn't travel Brian said he was ommited because "I can only pick 18 players". If he was injured or he has wife probs, why not say that?

Because it isn't the reason and brendy's making up excuses.

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by Plymouth_Royal » 04 Mar 2013 18:29

RockheadRumple What the f/ck does everyone actually want then, eh? If we lose playing 4-5-1 then the majority demands 4-4-2, but then we lose playing 4-4-2 and everyone is asking for 4-5-1 again. If you're going to complain at least have some solid f/cking basis for your own actual arguement rather than just being really bloody thick.


Not bothered what formation we play. Just want a team capable of passing the fecking ball rather than resorting to pub standard. I find it comical how a group of players deemed professional footballers can't find a team mate within a few yards. It's blindingly obvious our style doesn't work. It is so out of date and soul destroying to watch it's becoming torture.

Sack the manager, modernise our game but still keep our "reading way" identity , then before you know it will be Merry fecking Christmas.

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Re: How Long Will BM Last at this rate?????

by Alexander Litvinenko » 04 Mar 2013 18:35

RockheadRumple What the f/ck does everyone actually want then, eh? If we lose playing 4-5-1 then the majority demands 4-4-2, but then we lose playing 4-4-2 and everyone is asking for 4-5-1 again. If you're going to complain at least have some solid f/cking basis for your own actual arguement rather than just being really bloody thick.


I want them to be able to adapt to the situation, to use the best formation for each match, and to be able to change as required. Also for some new ideas occasionally when one formation is no longer an option due to the fuckwittery of one player.

Some nous, some variety, some creativity, some individuality - not to mention some passion and some commitment.

And the more important a match is, the better prepared and the more committed I want the team to be - and I want to see that it hurts them to lose as much as it hurts me, and to hear that it does matter, rather than just let loose the same collection of inane platitudes we've heard so many times. "We learn from it and move on" - well you'd better learn pretty damn quick, because you've only got 10 games left to learn from!

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by Born 'n Bred Royal » 04 Mar 2013 19:18

To all that want McDermott to go: be careful what you wish for!

For example, look at Wolves last season - they were in a very similar position to us, struggling all season the odd point off safety for ages then they sack McCarthy and no-one wanted the job. They hire a complete novice who had next to no managerial experience and went down with little or no fight.

The following season they hire an unproven manager in English football, sack him and hire Saunders (should have hired O'Driscoll) and are in a very real danger of slipping down again to League One.

If, inevitably, we do go down - let's give McDermott a couple of months to put together a promotion challenge, after all we won the league with him! Sacking him and losing stability could end up doing far more damage in the long run and it's not in the clubs nature to do that.


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by Hoop Blah » 04 Mar 2013 20:05

It's too late to get rid of him now, and I don't think anyone has really suggested he should get the boot now.

I'm not convinced his record in the Championship means we should stick with him unless he shows that he can 'move on' from the percentage and limited football he's relied on so far. If he isn't capable of moulding a squad capable of more than he already has then I don't see the point of keeping him. I'd rather we got someone else in with a more modern and flexible approach so that we can progress or at least watch some better football during the process.

I certainly don't see Wolves things getting spectacularly wrong as a reason not to make changes at some point in the future.

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by Royal91 » 04 Mar 2013 22:24

As annoying as McDermott has been this season, with his ridiculous favouritisms, stupid team selections, poor man management and under par transfer dealings, we would be mad to get rid of him for the foreseeable future.

He deserves the chance to get us back up and I believe with him at the helm we would!!

If we don't bounce straight back up then get rid of him!

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by JordCot » 04 Mar 2013 22:36

We don't need a change of manager we need a change in philosophy. If we go down BM can have the chance to build a side to play a better style if he ignores that opportunity and plays the same style of football (even if we win the league again) we should make a change in the near future to benefit the club in the long run

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by RoyalBlue » 05 Mar 2013 00:57

Royal91 As annoying as McDermott has been this season, with his ridiculous favouritisms, stupid team selections, poor man management and under par transfer dealings, we would be mad to get rid of him for the foreseeable future.

He deserves the chance to get us back up and I believe with him at the helm we would!!

If we don't bounce straight back up then get rid of him!


Might as well get rid of him at the end of the season if we go down then. There is absolutely no way that we are going to bounce straight back up playing his style of football. There are too many teams playing good, modern style passing football in the Championship now and McDermott's one dimensional, huff and puff style will get found out at that level too.

However, Anton and JM will put up with another traditional poor slow start to the season before they accept that is the case, which is why my money is on McDermott departing in Nov/Dec 2013.


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by Royal91 » 05 Mar 2013 01:29

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Royal91 As annoying as McDermott has been this season, with his ridiculous favouritisms, stupid team selections, poor man management and under par transfer dealings, we would be mad to get rid of him for the foreseeable future.

He deserves the chance to get us back up and I believe with him at the helm we would!!

If we don't bounce straight back up then get rid of him!


Might as well get rid of him at the end of the season if we go down then. There is absolutely no way that we are going to bounce straight back up playing his style of football. There are too many teams playing good, modern style passing football in the Championship now and McDermott's one dimensional, huff and puff style will get found out at that level too.

However, Anton and JM will put up with another traditional poor slow start to the season before they accept that is the case, which is why my money is on McDermott departing in Nov/Dec 2013.


Maybe I'm being too lenient towards Brain because he is such a nice guy. And as you pointed out the championship is ever improving with more and more teams playing attractive slick creative football. We need to back him or sack him. Give the bloke some money and see what he can do!

We need to become basically a shit Man Utd. Still have our identity of fast dribbling wingers but adapt the CM's and buy a number 10!

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by melonhead » 05 Mar 2013 10:09

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Royal91 As annoying as McDermott has been this season, with his ridiculous favouritisms, stupid team selections, poor man management and under par transfer dealings, we would be mad to get rid of him for the foreseeable future.

He deserves the chance to get us back up and I believe with him at the helm we would!!

If we don't bounce straight back up then get rid of him!


Might as well get rid of him at the end of the season if we go down then. There is absolutely no way that we are going to bounce straight back up playing his style of football. There are too many teams playing good, modern style passing football in the Championship now and McDermott's one dimensional, huff and puff style will get found out at that level too.

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what a lot of tosh

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by leon » 05 Mar 2013 10:17

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Royal91 As annoying as McDermott has been this season, with his ridiculous favouritisms, stupid team selections, poor man management and under par transfer dealings, we would be mad to get rid of him for the foreseeable future.

He deserves the chance to get us back up and I believe with him at the helm we would!!

If we don't bounce straight back up then get rid of him!


Might as well get rid of him at the end of the season if we go down then. There is absolutely no way that we are going to bounce straight back up playing his style of football. There are too many teams playing good, modern style passing football in the Championship now and McDermott's one dimensional, huff and puff style will get found out at that level too.

However, Anton and JM will put up with another traditional poor slow start to the season before they accept that is the case, which is why my money is on McDermott departing in Nov/Dec 2013.


spot on. The Championship has changed beyond all recognition in the 8 months since we we last won it.

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by southbank1871 » 05 Mar 2013 10:23

Oof.


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by Ouroboros » 05 Mar 2013 10:31

RoyalBlue there are too many teams playing good, modern style passing football in the Championship now and McDermott's one dimensional, huff and puff style will get found out at that level too.


:lol:

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by Vic_Flange » 05 Mar 2013 11:25

JordCot We don't need a change of manager we need a change in philosophy. If we go down BM can have the chance to build a side to play a better style if he ignores that opportunity and plays the same style of football (even if we win the league again) we should make a change in the near future to benefit the club in the long run



Sorry mate but this is a complete load of bollocks. We are crap losing to 5hite like Wigan at home - and the sooner we realise we are crap due to the lower quality players we have the better. Who bought them? Who didn't buy others? There's the bloody great brick wall staring us in the face only we keep head butting it.

Change of philosophy; how about our changing our overall chemisty, physics and the fine mathematics of all these?

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by bracksroyal10 » 05 Mar 2013 12:56

Its not even the style of play I am worried about when we play well it comes off a lot of the time.


Its the fact that we go into big big games like Wigan and the boys don't even seem up for it at all. Like the game this saturday Brian needs to nail it into all of them that this game makes or breaks our season.

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by Snowball » 05 Mar 2013 12:59

leon spot on. The Championship has changed beyond all recognition in the 8 months since we we last won it.


Love it.

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by JordCot » 05 Mar 2013 13:34

Vic_Flange Sorry mate but this is a complete load of bollocks. We are crap losing to 5hite like Wigan at home - and the sooner we realise we are crap due to the lower quality players we have the better. Who bought them? Who didn't buy others? There's the bloody great brick wall staring us in the face only we keep head butting it.

Change of philosophy; how about our changing our overall chemisty, physics and the fine mathematics of all these?


It was perhaps naive for him to think we could play same way as in the champ but tbf we won the league so I don't blame him for wanting to keep the core of that team. Having won the league he wasn't going chance the whole style of play in the summer going into a league we have little experience with.

Before the start of this season loads of people were talking about which players would step and look quality like last time we were here but very few players have stepped up. You can't predict that. He has made some glaring tactical and man management errors this year but there has also been a number of things outside of his control that have gone wrong.

I'm very happy to give the guy another 6 months to see what he can do

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by Maguire » 05 Mar 2013 16:03

Good to see Leon going in hard up there ^^

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by 72 bus » 05 Mar 2013 16:25

bracksroyal10
Its the fact that we go into big big games like Wigan and the boys don't even seem up for it at all. Like the game this saturday Brian needs to nail it into all of them that this game makes or breaks our season.


He needs to pin up on the dressing room wall just how much each of them stand to lose in wages if we go down.
That ought to focus their minds as they seem motivated by little else.

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