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Re: Coppell

by Royalee » 03 Jan 2010 14:50

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Maguire his ill-judged and premature dismissal somehow makes them "right".


And equally calling the sacking ill-judged and premature somehow makes it ill-judged and premature? As I said earlier, only the board's opinion matters - and they agreed with the nay-sayers.


You think he was given enough time then floyd? This is the same board which has seen us go from 8th in the Premiership to the 18th in the Championship in just over 2 years.

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Re: Coppell

by Terminal Boardom » 03 Jan 2010 14:51

Royalee TB, you'd have thought a few more than 0 of the 11,000 season ticket holders would have been shouting 'Rodgers Out' after the Scunthorpe game if any less than than majority were happy for him to stay, would you not? Most people thought Rodgers was a failure though based on what you and a few other resident buffoons on here say though, despite being outnumbered even on HNA...


Answer the question. You are taking the results of a very unscientific poll and applying the figures that suit you.

Fact is that BR was shit and got the sack. Fact is that the squad is shit. Fact is that the club is sinking faster than a stone. Fact is that the club is losing money hand over fist. Fact is that the club have lied to the supporters. Fact is that it will take a very long time for things to improve.

Your point is that more supporters wanted BR to stay than go. Where is your evidence? I will help you. There is NO evidence. HTH Boris.

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Re: Coppell

by Rax » 03 Jan 2010 14:52

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Royalee You can't say they were either right or wrong as there is no concrete evidence to suggest either. I'd have accepted I was wrong if he'd been given the transfer window with the backing of the board and we'd still been battling relegation in March, but that wasn't the case. Go and look at the poll.


How can you honestly say that the majority of Reading fans wanted BR to say? Do the maths!

http://hobnob.royals.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=95058

Hope this helps.


RoyaLOLee in clutching at straws shocker!

I can't believe you're still prepared to fight the BR corner when most 'sane' people accept that his ineptitude was plain for all to see.

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Re: Coppell

by Plymouth_Royal » 03 Jan 2010 14:53

Royal_Delight Coppell back as manager or football consultant could be a good thing. In fact, he is the only one who knows how to deal with Madman's cloth cutting spree. His ability to scout talent also puts McDermott to shame!


Long, Golbourne, Bennett, Oster, Halls, Sodje, Mooney, pissing off Cox, Stack, Fae, Halford, Eric Chunkwelo...????(Sonko's mate).....I bet McDermott wished he had the final say on them.
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Re: Coppell

by Ian Royal » 03 Jan 2010 14:53

The timing was difficult. It either had to happen quickly or not at all. Madejski had to make the decision based on how he thought Rodgers would do in th erest of the season and how he'd handle the transfer window.

Will it prove the right decision? Probably impossible to ever be sure, but Rodgers certainly did badly enough and made enough mistakes that he forced Madejski into having to make a decision when he did. It's not like Madejski is known for sacking underperforming managers.


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Re: Coppell

by Royalee » 03 Jan 2010 14:53

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Royalee TB, you'd have thought a few more than 0 of the 11,000 season ticket holders would have been shouting 'Rodgers Out' after the Scunthorpe game if any less than than majority were happy for him to stay, would you not? Most people thought Rodgers was a failure though based on what you and a few other resident buffoons on here say though, despite being outnumbered even on HNA...


Answer the question. You are taking the results of a very unscientific poll and applying the figures that suit you.

Fact is that BR was shit and got the sack. Fact is that the squad is shit. Fact is that the club is sinking faster than a stone. Fact is that the club is losing money hand over fist. Fact is that the club have lied to the supporters. Fact is that it will take a very long time for things to improve.

Your point is that more supporters wanted BR to stay than go. Where is your evidence? I will help you. There is NO evidence. HTH Boris.


There really is no point arguing with you, you completely ignore the reasons why the squad is weak, why we have no money and why it will take time to go back up.

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Re: Coppell

by Royalee » 03 Jan 2010 14:54

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Royalee With some people's mindsets, if Coppell was to come back and we were not to win a game for the rest of the season and went down, relegation would still be Rodgers' fault.


"you are certainly not a supporter of this club."


You're not, no. Perhaps you could make a start by actually going to games.

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Re: Coppell

by Royalee » 03 Jan 2010 14:55

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RoyaLOLee in clutching at straws shocker!

I can't believe you're still prepared to fight the BR corner when most 'sane' people accept that his ineptitude was plain for all to see.


Another idiot unable to put together a proper argument.

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Re: Coppell

by Terminal Boardom » 03 Jan 2010 14:56

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Maguire I actually agree with you Royalee. Load of fans on here on Rodgers' back from day one, never ever gave him a chance, and then rejoice because they think his ill-judged and premature dismissal somehow makes them "right".


With some people's mindsets, if Coppell was to come back and we were not to win a game for the rest of the season and went down, relegation would still be Rodgers' fault.


I for one, and others, have said that it makes no difference who the manager is. You can not make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. SAF, Wenger and other "World Class" managers would struggle. What makes you think otherwise?

BR knew what he was letting himself in for when he took the job. Well, more fool him then!

As for giving the retard a chance, I gave up on him after the Peterborough debacle as did quite a considerable number of others. There were very, very few who didn't give him a chance whatsoever.


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Re: Coppell

by Terminal Boardom » 03 Jan 2010 14:56

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RoyaLOLee in clutching at straws shocker!

I can't believe you're still prepared to fight the BR corner when most 'sane' people accept that his ineptitude was plain for all to see.


Another idiot unable to put together a proper argument.


The words POT and Kettle spring to mind.

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Re: Coppell

by Ian Royal » 03 Jan 2010 14:56

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Royal_Delight Coppell back as manager or football consultant could be a good thing. In fact, he is the only one who knows how to deal with Madman's cloth cutting spree. His ability to scout talent also puts McDermott to shame!


Long, Golbourne, Bennett, Oster, Halls, Sodje, Mooney, pissing off Cox, Stack, Fae, Halford, Eric Chunkwelo...????(Sonko's mate).....I bet McDermott wished he had the final say on them.



Yeah, because you know McDermott had nothing to do with scouting any of those players and was only responsible for Convey, Sonko, Hunt, Doyle, Kitson, Ingimarsson, Lita, Hunt etc etc

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Re: Coppell

by floyd__streete » 03 Jan 2010 14:57

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Maguire his ill-judged and premature dismissal somehow makes them "right".


And equally calling the sacking ill-judged and premature somehow makes it ill-judged and premature? As I said earlier, only the board's opinion matters - and they agreed with the nay-sayers.


You think he was given enough time then floyd? This is the same board which has seen us go from 8th in the Premiership to the 18th in the Championship in just over 2 years.


I trust the evidence of my own eyes. I barely enjoyed a single game in which Rodgers was in charge, in fact both my highlights of an utterly diabolical season have followed his sacking (deserved equaliser at Bristol, deserved draw yesterday) :| .

His embarassing handling of the Smith transfer, his petulant reaction to Tim Dellor's probing - Dellor himself being more Eric Nixon than Frost/Nixon - and his numerous tiresome soundbites in the face of appaling results.....I felt that Rodgers deserved to go, but what you and I think is of course utterly irrelevant of course. Sympathy for the selling of all the best assets he inherited is also limited because if he wasn't informed during his interview that a fire-sale would be taking place then he was a bit of a mug for being duped into the taking the job.

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Re: Coppell

by Royalee » 03 Jan 2010 14:58

Terminal Boardom I gave up on him after the Peterborough debacle as did quite a considerable number of others.


Christ, you gave him a whole month and a half?!


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Re: Coppell

by Royalee » 03 Jan 2010 15:01

So now you're all blaming him for taking the job in the first place and calling him a fool for it? :lol:

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Re: Coppell

by Plymouth_Royal » 03 Jan 2010 15:02

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Royal_Delight Coppell back as manager or football consultant could be a good thing. In fact, he is the only one who knows how to deal with Madman's cloth cutting spree. His ability to scout talent also puts McDermott to shame!


Long, Golbourne, Bennett, Oster, Halls, Sodje, Mooney, pissing off Cox, Stack, Fae, Halford, Eric Chunkwelo...????(Sonko's mate).....I bet McDermott wished he had the final say on them.



Yeah, because you know McDermott had nothing to do with scouting any of those players and was only responsible for Convey, Sonko, Hunt, Doyle, Kitson, Ingimarsson, Lita, Hunt etc etc


And who had the final say on ALL those players Ian?....

Coppell was the man in charge. He set his scouts to find a specific type of player and they report back. He then watches a video or sees them in person or both. He has the final say. I agree with those players you mentioned but a lot of the players he signed post 106 were atrociously bad and makes you wonder whether he was starting to lose his touch.

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Re: Coppell

by Plymouth_Royal » 03 Jan 2010 15:03

Royalee
Terminal Boardom I gave up on him after the Peterborough debacle as did quite a considerable number of others.


Christ, you gave him a whole month and a half?!


:lol:

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Re: Coppell

by Terminal Boardom » 03 Jan 2010 15:04

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Terminal Boardom I gave up on him after the Peterborough debacle as did quite a considerable number of others.


Christ, you gave him a whole month and a half?!


When was he appointed?

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Re: Coppell

by Royalee » 03 Jan 2010 15:06

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Terminal Boardom I gave up on him after the Peterborough debacle as did quite a considerable number of others.


Christ, you gave him a whole month and a half?!


When was he appointed?


This pre-season, which would mean he had a month and a half of the season before you had 'given him a chance' TB.

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Re: Coppell

by Ian Royal » 03 Jan 2010 15:06

Royalee So now you're all blaming him for taking the job in the first place and calling him a fool for it? :lol:


No he's being blamed for taking a job he clearly had no idea how to do with the resources available.

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Re: Coppell

by Royalee » 03 Jan 2010 15:08

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Royalee So now you're all blaming him for taking the job in the first place and calling him a fool for it? :lol:


No he's being blamed for taking a job he clearly had no idea how to do with the resources available.


Having 'no idea how to do' and laying the foundations towards a long term plan only to find out 4 months of football later that the chairman was only focused on the short-term are two very different things - I wouldn't expect you to realise that though. Another manager could have signed a load of journeymen to keep us up this season, but they'd cost more money and we'd be left in exactly the same position next year.

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