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Re: Marek's future

by Ian Royal » 21 Mar 2010 12:44

I hate it when woodcote tries to agree with something I haven't said to push his own warped agenda.

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Re: Marek's future

by Woodcote Royal » 21 Mar 2010 12:46

Harpers So Solid Crew WR more knowledgeable that RFC's best ever manager!!!!!!

Picking one player that has come through does not really work, I don't recall many saying he should have been recalled and played last season. I do recall people calling for Mooney and Henry to be recalled and played, probably the same folk that said a refreshed Lita would be good for the team. And all those that wet themselves when Kitson came back, yeah what a poor manager Coppell was, and I suppose still is.


You don't need to be Einstein to pick holes in Coppell's performance over his last 2 seasons..........................they were as dire as the previous 2 were simply brilliant but this subject goes to the very heart of why he screwed up so badly and left us where we are today rather than consolidating in the Prem like Wigan and Stoke.

We never needed Marek we needed a replacement for Sidwell and someone who was going to push the sulking Shorey but Coppell NEVER bought anyone who was going to oust one of his 106 and either flogged (Cox) or sent out on loan any youngsters who were looking likely.....................................which is why many of us had never seen Siggy until we turned up to watch the cup game against Burton (6,000 die hards like you and me :P )

Furthermore, I wouldn't be surprised if there wasn't one Reading fan who last summer suggested making Brian McDermott our manager but he's currently placing the recent efforts of two predecessors in their true light.

PS. And, Wimb, sorry you can't make any sense of my previous post. I was stone cold sober at the time......................... perhaps it's just too deep for you :|

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Re: Marek's future

by Harpers So Solid Crew » 21 Mar 2010 13:23

we did not need to replace Sidwell, we had Gunnar to fill in. Didn't he buy Bikey, he got a good look in over the promoted team, as did Seol, but in all honesty were they better than what we had, perhaps history will say not.

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Re: Marek's future

by Harpers So Solid Crew » 21 Mar 2010 13:26

PS saw Sigg against Luton last season in the milk cup. A prospect, no more no less. Don't recall you calling for him to play then, ah but then we were top three till Xmas, and you was happy.

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Re: Marek's future

by Woodcote Royal » 21 Mar 2010 13:32

But that's my main point. I believe he deliberately only bought cover and when the likes of Bikey started showing signs of being better than his favourites he just found excuses not to play them.

Let in 7 at Portsmouth with Bikey watching from the bench, play the same back 5 next game so they don't loose confidence :|


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Re: Marek's future

by Harpers So Solid Crew » 21 Mar 2010 13:36

and the result in the game after Pompy was?????

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Re: Marek's future

by Smoking Kills Dancing Doe » 21 Mar 2010 13:40

Coppell's downfall was his transfer policy.

He just didn't have a plan b. It was keep faith in what you had and that was it. Even when starring down the barrel of relegation and with a number of players lined up to sign, he still bottled it and ended up going with the cover options of Kebe and MArek.

I can't help but think if he hadn't been such a stubborn git, he'd still be Reading manager and Reading would still be in The Premiership.

As for Marek, he's so far down the pecking order and a higher earner. IF the choice is between a 4th or 5th choice centre mid or signing one of Griff or Kish, there's just nothing to debate.

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Re: Marek's future

by Woodcote Royal » 21 Mar 2010 13:41

Harpers So Solid Crew PS saw Sigg against Luton last season in the milk cup. A prospect, no more no less. Don't recall you calling for him to play then, ah but then we were top three till Xmas, and you was happy.


Either Coppell is an extremely bad spotter of young talent (and we're talking about the man who discovered Ian Wright, Kevin Doyle etc) or, he was deliberately sidelining those who threatened the places of his favourites.

You were the person who said this week that you wouldn't have ANY of Coppell's old guard in our current team :P

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Re: Marek's future

by Smoking Kills Dancing Doe » 21 Mar 2010 13:42

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Harpers So Solid Crew PS saw Sigg against Luton last season in the milk cup. A prospect, no more no less. Don't recall you calling for him to play then, ah but then we were top three till Xmas, and you was happy.


Either Coppell is an extremely bad spotter of young talent (and we're talking about the man who discovered Ian Wright, Kevin Doyle etc) or, he was deliberately sidelining those who threatened the places of his favourites.

You were the person who said this week that you wouldn't have ANY of Coppell's old guard in our current team :P


Or he did a fantastic job of protecting our young talent and allowed them to devolp away from the spotlight to become the players they are now....


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Re: Marek's future

by Harpers So Solid Crew » 21 Mar 2010 13:43

I doubt that Marek is on that high wages, relegation will have knocked it back, and with a lack of matches I bet he is not doing that well.

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Re: Marek's future

by Woodcote Royal » 21 Mar 2010 13:43

Woodcote Royal But that's my main point. I believe he deliberately only bought cover and when the likes of Bikey started showing signs of being better than his favourites he just found excuses not to play them.

Let in 7 at Portsmouth with Bikey watching from the bench, play the same back 5 next game so they don't loose confidence :|


And what was "the result" at the end of the season.

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Re: Marek's future

by Smoking Kills Dancing Doe » 21 Mar 2010 13:45

Harpers So Solid Crew I doubt that Marek is on that high wages, relegation will have knocked it back, and with a lack of matches I bet he is not doing that well.


Heard he was in the top 5 earners.

Sure his wages have gone down a lot, but so have everyones and I would imagine he was at a much higher level than the others we have.

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Re: Marek's future

by Harpers So Solid Crew » 21 Mar 2010 13:45

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You were the person who said this week that you wouldn't have ANY of Coppell's old guard in our current team :P


That is because I do not believe that players that move on can move back, there are exceptions, but they are few and far between.


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Re: Marek's future

by Harpers So Solid Crew » 21 Mar 2010 13:47

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Woodcote Royal But that's my main point. I believe he deliberately only bought cover and when the likes of Bikey started showing signs of being better than his favourites he just found excuses not to play them.

Let in 7 at Portsmouth with Bikey watching from the bench, play the same back 5 next game so they don't loose confidence :|


And what was "the result" at the end of the season.


you questioned why he did not change the team the following game, what was the result in the next game??

And what happened in the following game when he had no choice but to make a change in the back 4???

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Re: Marek's future

by Harpers So Solid Crew » 21 Mar 2010 13:48

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Harpers So Solid Crew I doubt that Marek is on that high wages, relegation will have knocked it back, and with a lack of matches I bet he is not doing that well.


Heard he was in the top 5 earners.

Sure his wages have gone down a lot, but so have everyones and I would imagine he was at a much higher level than the others we have.


So Rosenior and Harper had to go, but Marek was allowed to stay, despite being a top earner.

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Re: Marek's future

by Woodcote Royal » 21 Mar 2010 13:50

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Harpers So Solid Crew PS saw Sigg against Luton last season in the milk cup. A prospect, no more no less. Don't recall you calling for him to play then, ah but then we were top three till Xmas, and you was happy.


Either Coppell is an extremely bad spotter of young talent (and we're talking about the man who discovered Ian Wright, Kevin Doyle etc) or, he was deliberately sidelining those who threatened the places of his favourites.

You were the person who said this week that you wouldn't have ANY of Coppell's old guard in our current team :P


Or he did a fantastic job of protecting our young talent and allowed them to devolp away from the spotlight to become the players they are now....



Do you honestly believe that Siggy would be a first team regular if Coppell was still our manager?

Karacan getting dropped (having been in the side when promotion was looking a near certainty) when Harper was fit and Cox doing well at WBA makes it very unlikely.........................he was looking after his favourites in the same way as he did with the players he signed.

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Re: Marek's future

by Wimb » 21 Mar 2010 13:57

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Harpers So Solid Crew PS saw Sigg against Luton last season in the milk cup. A prospect, no more no less. Don't recall you calling for him to play then, ah but then we were top three till Xmas, and you was happy.


Either Coppell is an extremely bad spotter of young talent (and we're talking about the man who discovered Ian Wright, Kevin Doyle etc) or, he was deliberately sidelining those who threatened the places of his favourites.

You were the person who said this week that you wouldn't have ANY of Coppell's old guard in our current team :P


You have got to be joking :| you think SSC deliberatly sidelined players and dented our chances of winning just because he was mates with players? This the same manager who dropped Shunt and Kitson for the Burnley game last year, one of the biggest matches in our history.

Every manager has favourites yes, but they are usually favourites for the reasons that they perform or have a strong history of performing for him. Perhaps he left some players in for too long hoping they would bounce back, but meh win some lose some.

Utterly stupid to try and play the 'would siggy be playing now' game.

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Re: Marek's future

by Harpers So Solid Crew » 21 Mar 2010 14:00

If Coppell was still our manager it would mean we would have got promotted(one t) I wonder how many would be happy with Siggs in the Prem at this stage in his career. We would be looking for safety again, the promoted teams are struggling except Brum, seems only yesterday that folk would have been happy being a yo yo club,

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Re: Marek's future

by Woodcote Royal » 21 Mar 2010 14:04

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Woodcote Royal But that's my main point. I believe he deliberately only bought cover and when the likes of Bikey started showing signs of being better than his favourites he just found excuses not to play them.

Let in 7 at Portsmouth with Bikey watching from the bench, play the same back 5 next game so they don't loose confidence :|


And what was "the result" at the end of the season.


you questioned why he did not change the team the following game, what was the result in the next game??

And what happened in the following game when he had no choice but to make a change in the back 4???


Regardless of future results, picking the same back 5 after letting in 7 says everything about Coppell's mind set. He signed Bikey and if he didn't think he was worth a go (especially having recently put in a Man of the match performance against Everton to secure one of our best results in a dire season :| ) after such a humiliating afternoon why sign him in the first place?

The answer is simple. The likes of Bikey and Marek were there purely to play second fiddle to his favourites whereas the likes of a Butt or a Savage; the sort of attainable signings who would have given us a real chance of staying up, would not have been happy with a few outings in the cup.

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Re: Marek's future

by Terminal Boardom » 21 Mar 2010 14:04

Who is our current manager? Who was our previous manager? Move on. This season is this season. The rest is history. Should Marek get a game? Does he fit in with BMcD's thinking? Will Marek be here for pre season training?

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