Who is to blame, this season? (in your opinion)

Who is to blame, this season?

Players
17
13%
Manager
45
34%
Coaches
2
2%
Fans
13
10%
Owner
15
11%
All of the above
39
30%
 
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Who is to blame, this season? (in your opinion)

by TBM » 14 Mar 2013 15:09

Players?
I'm not sure if the players are to blame, i mean they are the same players as last season and we did so well - i just think the majority of them are not good enough for this division.

(ex)Manager?
BMc was the man picking the team, deciding on the tactics and involved in recruiting the right players for the team, to stay up in this division....did he fail or were his hands tied? (last minute 'big' bid for Sig? - why not spend £10m on 2 or 3 others players that we need)

Coaches?
Did we need more? - were the ones we have good enough to train the players for Premiership football?

Fans?
Did we give enough support and "back the boys"

Owner?
Were the funds there and not taken? - was he told to budget this season until the big money kicks in?
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Re: Who is to blame, this season? (in your opinion)

by akranes » 14 Mar 2013 15:12

I choose all of the aboive.

Can't stand em.

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Re: Who is to blame, this season? (in your opinion)

by USA_Loyal_Royal » 14 Mar 2013 15:14

everyone is to blame partially. we really have no clue if anton did actually give BM a huge budget of 10-15m and he didnt spend it, or he was given a limited budget to work with. reports suggest that it was the 10-15m budget but we dont really know.

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Re: Who is to blame, this season? (in your opinion)

by Norfolk Royal » 14 Mar 2013 15:15

Felix Bowness.

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Re: Who is to blame, this season? (in your opinion)

by Badger Finger » 14 Mar 2013 15:16

Felix Bumgardener


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Re: Who is to blame, this season? (in your opinion)

by melonhead » 14 Mar 2013 15:19

when bad things happen involving complex multi factorial systems, blame is almost always spread prettty evenly across the board

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Re: Who is to blame, this season? (in your opinion)

by Einstein agogo » 14 Mar 2013 15:22

Naive tactics from Brian ( lack of experience showed ... luv the guy though )
Terrible cock ups with trying to get Ince & Sig.. you've got to spend what they want at this level , no messing about.
McCarthy getting injured... what a twonk
Kebe being so fragile

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Re: Who is to blame, this season? (in your opinion)

by TBM » 14 Mar 2013 15:24

Einstein agogo McCarthy getting injured... what a twonk


I would say that Feds came back a better player after McCarthy got injured and saved us a few times (Norwich, Sunderland, Chelsea spring to mind)

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Re: Who is to blame, this season? (in your opinion)

by Royal Ginger » 14 Mar 2013 15:26

Danny Guthrie.


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Re: Who is to blame, this season? (in your opinion)

by Badger Finger » 14 Mar 2013 15:27

Terry the taxi

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Re: Who is to blame, this season? (in your opinion)

by ankeny » 14 Mar 2013 15:33

Could say the players he brought in,not good enough but then it's not their fault,any first division player would not turn down the prem.So I lay the blame on Hammond and SJM,the sooner they get out the club and let Anton run it on his own the better.

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Re: Who is to blame, this season? (in your opinion)

by Simon's Church » 14 Mar 2013 15:35

Our season was over the moment Barack won a second term. I blame America.

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Re: Who is to blame, this season? (in your opinion)

by TBM » 14 Mar 2013 15:36

ankeny Could say the players he brought in,not good enough but then it's not their fault,any first division player would not turn down the prem.So I lay the blame on Hammond and SJM,the sooner they get out the club and let Anton run it on his own the better.




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Re: Who is to blame, this season? (in your opinion)

by floyd__streete » 14 Mar 2013 16:10

Blame? The man who has been at the helm (the word 'helm' being particular apt in recent weeks), wielding the most power throughout a diabolical season with an utterly shambolic finale. Anton Zingarevich.

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Re: Who is to blame, this season? (in your opinion)

by Elm Park Pasty » 14 Mar 2013 16:17

I don't think you can apportion blame, if that's what you want to do, without knowing the full story of what happened within the club, and around the squad. Did the money exist? Did the money but it wasn't spent? Could we have got better players? Should the tactics have been altered to accomodate new signings? To be honest it's one of those conundrums where you just end up asking more and more questions without definitive answers. Best thing would be just to draw a line. Brian did wonders thoughout his period as a manager, Brian has now gone, we move forward from here..........
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Re: Who is to blame, this season? (in your opinion)

by Z175 » 14 Mar 2013 16:19

I can't believe people blame Brian for transfers. Whenever hes had cash hes been a kid in a candy shop - e.g. selling after Sigurdsson, we signed a ton of players the next day, harte, Khizinishvilli etc. Then in January 2011 with RFC loaning cash from Anton he went a bit mad too, Roberts was a key addition but he also got whoever he could, Cwyka, Afobe...

Any talk of us signing Aspas, Long, Sigurdsson brings a mention of structured payments, over 3 years. This is being funded by club revenues, i.e. sky and our ticket money, not Anton's pockets.

I don't blame the owner for not being rich, I just think he should not let Brian take the flak. We've heard it before about Coppell and people even say it about Wenger, that they refuse to spend cash. Actually they just don't absurdly turn on their board Benitez-style. In fact I remember McDermott himself once responding, "Listen, no football manager on earth would not spend money if they have it". Of course he changed on Saturday to musing about summer spending, and he paid the price.

You could argue he wasted a bit on Gunter, but for a PL squad you need cover. Look at our 3rd choice goalkeeper, Tabb and Blackman having played so many games. If you can only have a couple at £3m and the rest free, you will get some gambles that don't pay off. Southampton, Villa and QPR each spent £12m on Gaston Ramirez, Benteke and Samba alone, that sort of cash gets you guaranteed ability.

Money doesn't really buy you success in the championship. Leicester and Cardiff have found out you that when you're restricted to players willing to play in the champ, its hard to get the right ones. Similarly in the PL to some extent at but at the bottom end theres a certain minimum level required to compete. The last team to spend less than £12m on transfers (in total, not just on one player) and survive was way back in summer 2006, and it was us!

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Re: Who is to blame, this season? (in your opinion)

by Royal91 » 14 Mar 2013 16:30

Until we know what the budget was and McDermott's willingness to spend (in the summer) then I believe its a question that cannot be answered.

However throughout the season there were stronger starting 11's available and better tactics and team selections to be installed.

I believe these players are better than what they are showing and I think McDermott was preventing them from passing the ball.

I believe our best goal of the season was the Pog's against Chelsea, which showed a measured build up from one wing to another some short snappy passing, decent service and an excellent header. If that was encouraged I would expect us to be a lot more competitive

The biggest blame in my book rests with McDermott

One policy I think we should have adopted was the loan market. Many clubs utilise the loan market!
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Re: Who is to blame, this season? (in your opinion)

by Badger Finger » 14 Mar 2013 16:33

I think Floyds constant scowl was slowly creating an audible wave, which was through the season drowning out Brians orders...

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Re: Who is to blame, this season? (in your opinion)

by Maguire » 14 Mar 2013 16:40

Everyone top to bottom, particularly Queensley.

I thought at the start of the season that we'd be okay as we were the best side in the league last year and we'd added some quality in Guthrie, Pogrebnyak, Gunter, and McCleary.

Plainly the failure of those lot to get a regular place in the side (ok I forgive Pog as he'd worked his nuts off this year) has meant we've been putting out a relatively weak side. Guthrie has just been a poor signing, end of story. They didn't really do their research on him. Gunter and McCleary just haven't stepped up although I still think they can play in a Championship winning side.

Whose fault all that is ^^ depends on who dictated signings and how much money there was available. I thought they were decent signings at the time so what do I know.

Brian - yeah i think he struggled to get the best from his players and made some poor tactical decisions (everyone goes on about Arsenal and I totally agree - said it before the game even - but Coppell did exactly the same thing during his tenure). As the pressure mounted he made more and more poor excuses as well.

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Re: Who is to blame, this season? (in your opinion)

by Mr.T10 » 14 Mar 2013 16:44

Royal91 Until we know what the budget was and McDermott's willingness to spend (in the summer) then I believe its a question that cannot be answered.

However throughout the season there were stronger starting 11's available and better tactics and team selections to be installed.

I believe these players are better than what they are showing and I think McDermott was preventing them from passing the ball.

I believe our best goal of the season was the Pog's against Chelsea, which showed a measured build up from one wing to another some short snappy passing, decent service and an excellent header. If that was encouraged I would expect us to be a lot more competitive

The biggest blame in my book rests with McDermott

One policy I think we should have adopted was the loan market. Many clubs utilise the loan market!


Agree with this.

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