The Egg chasers relegation

353 posts
User avatar
Green
Hob Nob Legend
Posts: 29607
Joined: 29 Jun 2012 13:28

Re: The Egg chasers relegation

by Green » 23 Mar 2016 14:07

Madejski aside - as a principle do you feel Premiership rugby has a home in Berkshire, or should it be concentrated in South West London?

The Royal Forester
Hob Nob Regular
Posts: 1612
Joined: 25 Dec 2015 13:53

Re: The Egg chasers relegation

by The Royal Forester » 23 Mar 2016 14:41

Green Madejski aside - as a principle do you feel Premiership rugby has a home in Berkshire, or should it be concentrated in South West London?

London Irish's home ground may have been in the Richmond/Twickenham for a couple of seasons, but for over 80 years they played in Sunbury-on-Thames, MIDDLESEX, (i.e not London). and their training ground is still in S-O-T. As an ex-Solarian I refuse to accept that the Staines area of Middlesex is in London!

User avatar
Green
Hob Nob Legend
Posts: 29607
Joined: 29 Jun 2012 13:28

Re: The Egg chasers relegation

by Green » 23 Mar 2016 16:19

The Royal Forester MIDDLESEX, (i.e not London).

Sorry to break it to you but they're actually not mutually exclusive.

User avatar
paultheroyal
Hob Nob Subscriber
Hob Nob Subscriber
Posts: 12837
Joined: 04 Mar 2005 12:59
Location: Hob Nob Reality TV Champ 2010/2011

Re: The Egg chasers relegation

by paultheroyal » 23 Mar 2016 16:43

Green Madejski aside - as a principle do you feel Premiership rugby has a home in Berkshire, or should it be concentrated in South West London?


Reading Rugby Club - would love them to be promoted and play Premiership Rugby and to develop their own stadium.

Same goes for Basingstoke but sadly they are in free fall.

User avatar
RG30
Hob Nob Addict
Posts: 6434
Joined: 26 Jul 2005 20:42

Re: The Egg chasers relegation

by RG30 » 23 Mar 2016 19:37

14. Professional Game Board
(Ian Metcalf - Chairman of the Professional Game Board)
i. The PGB received a detailed presentation from Dr Simon Kemp to the Premiership Injury Surveillance
Project Season report together with an update on concussion. The severity of injury (as measured by
days out of the game) trend is flat. A third of injuries occur in training. Concussion accounted for
17% of all injuries. Education on concussion is going well with 100% compliance by players, coaches
and referees for the online concussions module again this year. The Head Injury Assessment (HIA)
protocol is now also being used in the A League and the Championship.
ii. The PGB has approved the setting up of an Education Strategy Group as a sub-group of the Player
Development Group.
iii. London Irish’s potential ground move is being monitored.
iv. Discussions are continuing regarding the reques


http://gloucestershirerfu.co.uk/FCKfiles/File/20160226_RFU_Council_Notes.pdf


Old Biscuitman
Member
Posts: 514
Joined: 30 Jun 2004 19:16
Location: Here and There

Re: The Egg chasers relegation

by Old Biscuitman » 23 Mar 2016 21:27

I enjoy both rugby and football. Just takes a broader mind set than many on here seem to possess.

For another thing, much better craic from London Irish at the Madejski this season than from the Royals.

Old Biscuitman
Member
Posts: 514
Joined: 30 Jun 2004 19:16
Location: Here and There

Re: The Egg chasers relegation

by Old Biscuitman » 23 Mar 2016 21:32

paultheroyal
Green Madejski aside - as a principle do you feel Premiership rugby has a home in Berkshire, or should it be concentrated in South West London?


Reading Rugby Club - would love them to be promoted and play Premiership Rugby and to develop their own stadium.

Same goes for Basingstoke but sadly they are in free fall.


You have to look at Redingensians for an example of great progress over the years. Now at their highest level ever in Nat 2 South.

Jackson Corner
Hob Nob Regular
Posts: 4896
Joined: 23 Nov 2005 00:55

Re: The Egg chasers relegation

by Jackson Corner » 24 Mar 2016 05:50

I believe they pay RFC 1 million a season to rent the ground. Can't get much for that in modern football.

Nameless
Hob Nob Addict
Posts: 8851
Joined: 23 Aug 2013 12:25

Re: The Egg chasers relegation

by Nameless » 24 Mar 2016 09:20

Although pity the poor marketing person who is suddenly told - you need to go and find an extra million to replace what we aren't getting from Irish !
I'm not sure it makes sense for any business to simply turn their noses up at a million quid (which I think is an underestimate in any case)


SCIAG
Hob Nob Addict
Posts: 6517
Joined: 17 Jun 2008 17:43
Location: Liburd for England

Re: The Egg chasers relegation

by SCIAG » 24 Mar 2016 11:08

paultheroyal
SCIAG Paul (and others) did start out with that nonsense about rugby destroying the pitch and said they'd be delighted if Irish were relegated and left.

I know I'd be condescending if I liked something and someone wanted me to stop liking it.


LOL at anyone including you saying that Rugby is not destroying the pitch. You are being serious right? In fact don't answer that as cant face this debate again - bit like Antonio!

Just look at the pitch. The areas that are worn away are those which see heavy football use - the goal mouth and the wings (particularly where the assistant runs).

The rest of the pitch frankly looks fine. Maybe it would be even better without rugby, and maybe the goalmouth would be better if it had extra time to recover, but I think Irish have much better grounds to say we are destroying the pitch that vice versa.

User avatar
One8Seven1*
Member
Posts: 624
Joined: 17 Nov 2015 09:55

Re: The Egg chasers relegation

by One8Seven1* » 24 Mar 2016 11:35

Jackson Corner I believe they pay RFC 1 million a season to rent the ground. Can't get much for that in modern football.


Wasn't it at some stage as little as £300,000 a season? Even £1m isn't enough when you consider replacing the pitch at the usual cost (we haven't actually spent what we usually do on it for three years!) is around £500k. It just doesn't seem worth it!

User avatar
RG30
Hob Nob Addict
Posts: 6434
Joined: 26 Jul 2005 20:42

Re: The Egg chasers relegation

by RG30 » 24 Mar 2016 11:50


Nameless
Hob Nob Addict
Posts: 8851
Joined: 23 Aug 2013 12:25

Re: The Egg chasers relegation

by Nameless » 24 Mar 2016 11:51

It's been mentioned several times in various places that on top of the match by match income, Irish also pay a large contribution to the pitch maintenance.
IIRC we only got the Desso pitch because they paid half, and they pay half the cost of the biannual relaying.
We didn't did the work it needed a couple of years ago because we had to give the money to the tax man. I believe Irish were none too happy about it....


User avatar
One8Seven1*
Member
Posts: 624
Joined: 17 Nov 2015 09:55

Re: The Egg chasers relegation

by One8Seven1* » 24 Mar 2016 11:56

Nameless It's been mentioned several times in various places that on top of the match by match income, Irish also pay a large contribution to the pitch maintenance.
IIRC we only got the Desso pitch because they paid half, and they pay half the cost of the biannual relaying.
We didn't did the work it needed a couple of years ago because we had to give the money to the tax man. I believe Irish were none too happy about it....


We also didn't invest the usual amount into the pitch last summer, and that's from the grounds staff themselves. Perhaps the Thai's felt it wasn't worth the investment, who knows. But scrimping on a couple 100k hasn't benefited us. If they wanted to save a few bob, stop interfering with signings and leave the likes of Ferndandez in Spain!

User avatar
paultheroyal
Hob Nob Subscriber
Hob Nob Subscriber
Posts: 12837
Joined: 04 Mar 2005 12:59
Location: Hob Nob Reality TV Champ 2010/2011

Re: The Egg chasers relegation

by paultheroyal » 24 Mar 2016 12:22

SCIAG
paultheroyal
SCIAG Paul (and others) did start out with that nonsense about rugby destroying the pitch and said they'd be delighted if Irish were relegated and left.

I know I'd be condescending if I liked something and someone wanted me to stop liking it.


LOL at anyone including you saying that Rugby is not destroying the pitch. You are being serious right? In fact don't answer that as cant face this debate again - bit like Antonio!

Just look at the pitch. The areas that are worn away are those which see heavy football use - the goal mouth and the wings (particularly where the assistant runs).

The rest of the pitch frankly looks fine. Maybe it would be even better without rugby, and maybe the goalmouth would be better if it had extra time to recover, but I think Irish have much better grounds to say we are destroying the pitch that vice versa.


Yep you have absolutely nailed that. Our excellent and continued wing play have caused those worn abrasions five yards in from the wings and absolutely those pocketed areas in the left and right back positions are from that forward running bursts and deep defending in times of trouble. Norwood and Williams also concentrate their running in key static areas of the pitch. Give you the goalmouths also.

Ps nice edit.


User avatar
floyd__streete
Hob Nob Addict
Posts: 8326
Joined: 19 Jan 2005 18:03
Location: ARREST RAY ILSLEY.

Re: The Egg chasers relegation

by floyd__streete » 24 Mar 2016 13:07

Old Biscuitman I enjoy both rugby and football. Just takes a broader mind set than many on here seem to possess.


Not really. It is perfectly permissible to be of the opinion that rugby is an infinitely less enjoyable spectacle than football. Imho, even the worst football matches tend to be more of an enjoyable and satisfying watch than the best rugby matches. I tend to be somewhat neutral on rugby; I do happen to think their code of conduct towards football is hugely superior to whatever code of conduct exists in football.

As far as LI goes, it is good for the otherwise forgettable and moribund town of Reading to have top level sport on its doorstep. Occasionally we get top flight soccer as well, when the mood takes us. It is a shame that LI are an inter-changeable franchise rather than a bona-fide 'Reading' team, but then that is english club rugby for you.

User avatar
Huckleberry Hound
Member
Posts: 139
Joined: 16 Oct 2011 18:04
Location: The Magic Roundabout

Re: The Egg chasers relegation

by Huckleberry Hound » 24 Mar 2016 13:10

The Royal Forester
Green Madejski aside - as a principle do you feel Premiership rugby has a home in Berkshire, or should it be concentrated in South West London?

London Irish's home ground may have been in the Richmond/Twickenham for a couple of seasons, but for over 80 years they played in Sunbury-on-Thames, MIDDLESEX, (i.e not London). and their training ground is still in S-O-T. As an ex-Solarian I refuse to accept that the Staines area of Middlesex is in London!


It's not. It's in Surrey.

Nameless
Hob Nob Addict
Posts: 8851
Joined: 23 Aug 2013 12:25

Re: The Egg chasers relegation

by Nameless » 24 Mar 2016 13:36

One8Seven1*
Nameless It's been mentioned several times in various places that on top of the match by match income, Irish also pay a large contribution to the pitch maintenance.
IIRC we only got the Desso pitch because they paid half, and they pay half the cost of the biannual relaying.
We didn't did the work it needed a couple of years ago because we had to give the money to the tax man. I believe Irish were none too happy about it....


We also didn't invest the usual amount into the pitch last summer, and that's from the grounds staff themselves. Perhaps the Thai's felt it wasn't worth the investment, who knows. But scrimping on a couple 100k hasn't benefited us. If they wanted to save a few bob, stop interfering with signings and leave the likes of Ferndandez in Spain!


On the other hand the pitch is actually not in bad shape at all. Twenty years ago the pitch would have won awards. By this time of year pitches were mud baths with no grass on. Ours is very slightly worn in a couple of places and the roll of the ball is very slightly untrue. I can't think of a single instance where the pitch has cost us a goal, or has led to a significant error.

User avatar
Green
Hob Nob Legend
Posts: 29607
Joined: 29 Jun 2012 13:28

Re: The Egg chasers relegation

by Green » 24 Mar 2016 17:11

You can drink while watching the match, fans aren't segregated or treated like schoolchildren by the police - it makes for a much nicer vibe. Just a shame the sport is so terrible to watch.

I'm sure there's a middle ground somewhere - cricket perhaps.

The Royal Forester
Hob Nob Regular
Posts: 1612
Joined: 25 Dec 2015 13:53

Re: The Egg chasers relegation

by The Royal Forester » 24 Mar 2016 19:33

Sunbury-on-Thames may be administered by Surrey County Council, but to most local residents and me, it is still Middlesex, The postal address includes Middlesex, a local football team is called Ashford Town (Middlesex) FC, that is good enough for me and many,many others to keep referring to the County that once existed until most of it was swallowed up by the greedy London Boroughs.

353 posts

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 135 guests

It is currently 19 Jul 2025 13:56