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by JC » 24 May 2007 13:58

As I said part of the construction is a new disabled area which looks as if it could take my seat. They surely know where that is located and which seats will be lost as a result

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by RG30 » 24 May 2007 14:05

JC The Reading Borough website has all the plans which clearly show quite a lot of detail. For example there is a disabled area in the East Stand from about Row V to DD roughly and extending across the best part of 3 blocks. It also indicated the new capacity will be 36,900.
As the club have these final plans approved why do they not tell us which seats will be lost


That isn't a disablred area, that's the new hospitality block as discussed earlier on this thread and the STAR forum.

From what I remember, any new disabled areas would be built towards the back of the East Stand.

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by Tazewell Royal » 24 May 2007 14:06

JC The Reading Borough website has all the plans which clearly show quite a lot of detail. For example there is a disabled area in the East Stand from about Row V to DD roughly and extending across the best part of 3 blocks. It also indicated the new capacity will be 36,900.
As the club have these final plans approved why do they not tell us which seats will be lost



Could you supply a link to the RBC so we can view them ourselves please

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by RG30 » 24 May 2007 14:06

http://hobnob.royals.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=60152

Hospitality Area on the STAR Fourm

Hospitality Area discussed on this thread is from Page 37 onwards.
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by ScottishRoyal » 24 May 2007 14:08

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Wycombe Royal We have obviously bought the retail park and are converting it into a park.

So from those pictures the East and North Stands will not have brick facings, so what are they going to do with all the bricks that people have paid good money to have on the stadium?


Leave them where they are?

So how would that work considering the footprint of the stadium will be moving out by about 8 metres?


Concourse wall maybe?


Or maybe they could just move them to the many spaces available around the rest of the ground?


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by JC » 24 May 2007 14:13

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JC The Reading Borough website has all the plans which clearly show quite a lot of detail. For example there is a disabled area in the East Stand from about Row V to DD roughly and extending across the best part of 3 blocks. It also indicated the new capacity will be 36,900.
As the club have these final plans approved why do they not tell us which seats will be lost


That isn't a disablred area, that's the new hospitality block as discussed earlier on this thread and the STAR forum.

From what I remember, any new disabled areas would be built towards the back of the East Stand.



Sorry to disagree with you but the plans which have been approved clearly show it as a disabled area

Look on here and the plans are those dated May 22

http://documents.reading.gov.uk/AnitePublicDocs

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by Skyline » 24 May 2007 14:22

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JC My point is that the plans are now final. So the club knows what the final layout will be so they could tell us


Some elements will be 'final', although can always be amended.

But there will be lots of parts that aren't finalised. If you build an extension on your house you submit plans but don;t tell them what shelves you'll put onthe walls or what colour you will paint it.

I'm not sure whether the plans had to include the precise seating layout seeing as the seats aren;t structural but are just bolted on to the concrete steps.

You would imagine the seating plans are relatively advanced though...


Bit of a false analogy there Behindu. Putting shelves up or painting the walls are not structural changes to your extension. If this indeed (as JC says) listed as a disabled area, it will mean a pretty large amount of demolition (of the existing seating area) and construction (of the flat floor of the disabled area and the wall at the back, as well as ancillary items like accessways) which would need to be included in the detailed planning permission.

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by Barry the bird boggler » 24 May 2007 14:23

Certainly looks like no hospitality at all in the East just an larger disabled place in the middle

Specifically this document shows it clear as day

http://documents.reading.gov.uk/AnitePublicDocs/00016760.pdf

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by JC » 24 May 2007 14:49

his one shows there is hospitality, but not with any view of the pitch it would seem. Unless it refers to the disabled supporters.

http://documents.reading.gov.uk/AnitePu ... 016720.pdf

I must say I think it odd to build a disabled section anywhere other than at ground level


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by Behindu » 24 May 2007 14:50

JC his one shows there is hospitality, but not with any view of the pitch it would seem. Unless it refers to the disabled supporters.

http://documents.reading.gov.uk/AnitePu ... 016720.pdf

I must say I think it odd to build a hospitality section anywhere other than at ground level


Espcially when all the existing hospitality in the West Stand is at 1st or 2nd floor level !

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by JC » 24 May 2007 14:50

Sorry, meant to say disabled

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by Behindu » 24 May 2007 14:53

No problem with having disabled areas at other than ground level - West Ham have their's right up under the roof !
As long as there is lift access it's not a problem and way better than the terrible places almost every club sticksfans in wheelchairs (ie pitch side)

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by Wycombe Royal » 24 May 2007 15:02

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Wycombe Royal We have obviously bought the retail park and are converting it into a park.

So from those pictures the East and North Stands will not have brick facings, so what are they going to do with all the bricks that people have paid good money to have on the stadium?


Leave them where they are?

So how would that work considering the footprint of the stadium will be moving out by about 8 metres?


Concourse wall maybe?


Or maybe they could just move them to the many spaces available around the rest of the ground?

Did you look at the artisits impressions? Not a piece of brickwork in sight on the East and North stands (so presumably the South as well).


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by Royal Fleet » 24 May 2007 15:20

Report on the OS says that work will now not start until summer 2008, so assuming that the seats will remain unaffected during the building work (they would not want to lose the revenue for a season I am sure) I will have two more years in my seat.

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by premiership_bound » 24 May 2007 15:23

Also if we struggle this season it may not happen at all.

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by premiership_bound » 24 May 2007 15:31

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Wycombe Royal We have obviously bought the retail park and are converting it into a park.

So from those pictures the East and North Stands will not have brick facings, so what are they going to do with all the bricks that people have paid good money to have on the stadium?


Leave them where they are?

So how would that work considering the footprint of the stadium will be moving out by about 8 metres?


Concourse wall maybe?


I would think that the current outer wall (where the bricks are) will become an inner wall and the bricks will remain there.

Or maybe they could just move them to the many spaces available around the rest of the ground?

Did you look at the artisits impressions? Not a piece of brickwork in sight on the East and North stands (so presumably the South as well).

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by Behindu » 24 May 2007 15:48

The delay looks sensible for a variety of reasons:


-more time to get the detail spot on
- more time to beef up the transport plan
- the station will be there before we actually need it

Given that we have lost probably a motnh as a result of Wokignhams's intervention I'd rather wait a year than see them trying to rush it though according to the old timetable.

Downsides :

- big risk that ST prices won't be held for 2008-9 if we don;t have the increased capacity

I don't think it is at all likely that we will struggle next season but I wonder what the plan is if we do go down ? I'd push ahead with it anyway, becasue if we did go down I think we'd bounce straight back up (given the financial advantage we'd have)

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by Royalshow » 24 May 2007 15:48

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Diamond have to say, the photo in the link (below) made the hairs on my neck stand up! I personally cannot wait:

http://documents.reading.gov.uk/AnitePublicDocs/00016746.pdf


If that's a photo then they have done a hell of a job getting the North Stand extended since last night !


the photo of the east stand shows B&Q been turned into a nice park,to repeat whats already been said.Good idea though
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by RG30 » 24 May 2007 15:51

So what happens if we get relegated next season (apologies for the negative thought) but question that will get asked sooner or later. Do the club continue with the redevelopment having budgeted for it or do they delay again?

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by Behindu » 24 May 2007 16:06

RG30 So what happens if we get relegated next season (apologies for the negative thought) but question that will get asked sooner or later. Do the club continue with the redevelopment having budgeted for it or do they delay again?


The question has been asked / point made on this very thread.

I'd say that the club will know exactly what they will do, and as I said in my previous post i think they will go ahead.

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