Champions League/Europa League 2021/22

[NathStPaul]

Going to be properly interesting to see where Poch ends up. Surely PSG will sack him, but the noise around ten Hag has seemed much louder in recent weeks. Looks somewhat of a gamble either way for United.

Cracking game last night. Four lovely goals, plus a disallowed belter from Mbappe. Not sure I've seen a more audacious dummy in a pressure game ever.

Another absolute bottle job from PSG. Their game management is so poor, dreadful, dreadful team. The moment they dicked around with their corner around the hour mark you knew they'd somehow screw it up.

I don't think it really matters who goes in at United, it will be a tough old slog regardless. Essentially need to ship out 10 players and bring 10 in, hard to do in this day and age. Cavani, Ronaldo, Maguire, AWB, Pogba all have to go imo.

[Whore Jackie]

They need change, but I'm actually of the opinion that with a decent long-term manager, plus a new top-drawer centre back, central midfielder and striker they won't be miles away. Ok, that's going to be getting on for £250m for those 3 key players, but there'll be enough players left once Pogba, Cavani and Ronaldo inevitably leave, to still field a reasonable team.

Man City, Liverpool and presumably Chelsea, if they can carry on, will battle it out for the top-three next season. Arsenal, Spurs and West Ham will all need to massively spend too, don't think fourth place is that far from United if they get it right going forward.

[BROB0T]

Going to be properly interesting to see where Poch ends up. Surely PSG will sack him, but the noise around ten Hag has seemed much louder in recent weeks. Looks somewhat of a gamble either way for United.

Cracking game last night. Four lovely goals, plus a disallowed belter from Mbappe. Not sure I've seen a more audacious dummy in a pressure game ever.

Another absolute bottle job from PSG. Their game management is so poor, dreadful, dreadful team. The moment they dicked around with their corner around the hour mark you knew they'd somehow screw it up.

I don't think it really matters who goes in at United, it will be a tough old slog regardless. Essentially need to ship out 10 players and bring 10 in, hard to do in this day and age. Cavani, Ronaldo, Maguire, AWB, Pogba all have to go imo.

Cavani is off
Ronaldo should never have to listen to the Europa league theme tune...so prolly off
Pogba is off...genuinely amazing player 'on his day', been out injured a 1/3 of his time at utd

Maguire/AWB: who the fcuk is going to buy these two pcunts for anything like what we paid for them

Also, let's put an end to the United can't play like the big teams in Europe. We could have easily done what PSG did last night

[BROB0T]

They need change, but I'm actually of the opinion that with a decent long-term manager, plus a new top-drawer centre back, central midfielder and striker they won't be miles away. Ok, that's going to be getting on for £250m for those 3 key players, but there'll be enough players left once Pogba, Cavani and Ronaldo inevitably leave, to still field a reasonable team.

Man City, Liverpool and presumably Chelsea, if they can carry on, will battle it out for the top-three next season. Arsenal, Spurs and West Ham will all need to massively spend too, don't think fourth place is that far from United if they get it right going forward.

This is true. There are, however, far too many players who are "on their day" players.

Maguire and Shaw had a recent 6-month period of being really good. Shaw was in for a shout as one of the best players in the Euros. They have both been absolute dogshit this season.

AWB is an incredible one-on-one tackler and just about good enough crosser but anything else, woeful.

Rashford has been 'dreadful' for a while. His style is VERY direct so it comes off and he gets a goal or it doesn't and he looks shite (i.e. he's either 8/10 or a 4/10)

etc etc

[6ft Kerplunk]

Maguire and Shaw had a recent 6-month period of being really good. Shaw was in for a shout as one of the best players in the Euros.

So all you need is Southgate as manager and the Premier league to agree to a 6 game season so you can get back to runner up level. etc etc

With PSG still being dogshit in Europe they'll be looking for a new manager too so you're just going to end up with the best manager that they don't want.

[URZZZZ]

Declan Rice really is superb - seems to get his tackles spot on every time. Don’t envisage him being at West Ham for too much longer but needs to be really careful with his next move and ensure he doesn’t curtail into mediocrity. Think Fornals and Lanzini are decent players but thought they were poor tonight. Very much in the tie though

As an aside, nice to see a Scottish team progress further into the competition

[Franchise FC]

They need change, but I'm actually of the opinion that with a decent long-term manager, plus a new top-drawer centre back, central midfielder and striker they won't be miles away. Ok, that's going to be getting on for £250m for those 3 key players, but there'll be enough players left once Pogba, Cavani and Ronaldo inevitably leave, to still field a reasonable team.

Man City, Liverpool and presumably Chelsea, if they can carry on, will battle it out for the top-three next season. Arsenal, Spurs and West Ham will all need to massively spend too, don't think fourth place is that far from United if they get it right going forward.

£250m to challenge for 4th place




I’m sure that’s exactly what the Utd fans are looking for

[Sanguine]

Does show how some fans see football (not a particular criticism of WJ). Salah, Mane and Firmino cost €100m between them. Diaz has cost about the same as Salah did, and five years later. Jota a similar number. It is signing 'top drawer' players that has cost United - Ronaldo, Cavani, Ibrahimovic, Maguire, Pogba. Big fees or wages, big reputations, fcuk-all end product.

United need to make good signings, not marquee signings. Sure, transfers aren't an exact science, but what on earth is their scouting network doing? Recommending Fred? And what on earth is their coaching team doing? The signings they have made in that sort of window, reasonably low to middling cost but with a high ceiling - Van Beek, Dan James, Wan Bissaka (okay, he cost too much), Sanchez - just haven't worked out at all.

Fernandes is the only real transfer success United can claim in the last five or six years.

[Franchise FC]

Does show how some fans see football (not a particular criticism of WJ). Salah, Mane and Firmino cost €100m between them. Diaz has cost about the same as Salah did, and five years later. Jota a similar number. It is signing 'top drawer' players that has cost United - Ronaldo, Cavani, Ibrahimovic, Maguire, Pogba. Big fees or wages, big reputations, fcuk-all end product.

United need to make good signings, not marquee signings. Sure, transfers aren't an exact science, but what on earth is their scouting network doing? Recommending Fred? And what on earth is their coaching team doing? The signings they have made in that sort of window, reasonably low to middling cost but with a high ceiling - Van Beek, Dan James, Wan Bissaka (okay, he cost too much), Sanchez - just haven't worked out at all.

Fernandes is the only real transfer success United can claim in the last five or six years.

Diaz looks exceptional and seems to have fitted in immediately, both with his attacking but also seems to be keen on tracking back

[NathStPaul]

Does show how some fans see football (not a particular criticism of WJ). Salah, Mane and Firmino cost €100m between them. Diaz has cost about the same as Salah did, and five years later. Jota a similar number. It is signing 'top drawer' players that has cost United - Ronaldo, Cavani, Ibrahimovic, Maguire, Pogba. Big fees or wages, big reputations, fcuk-all end product.

United need to make good signings, not marquee signings. Sure, transfers aren't an exact science, but what on earth is their scouting network doing? Recommending Fred? And what on earth is their coaching team doing? The signings they have made in that sort of window, reasonably low to middling cost but with a high ceiling - Van Beek, Dan James, Wan Bissaka (okay, he cost too much), Sanchez - just haven't worked out at all.

Fernandes is the only real transfer success United can claim in the last five or six years.

Fernandes has looked a shadow of his former self, not sure what is wrong with him this season. Looks frustrated and drifts in and out of games, really regressed. Personally I think it is the Ronaldo effect. Fernandes was the star of the show and then Ronaldo turns up and steals his thunder, Bruno then seemingly went into a sulk.

[Whore Jackie]

Does show how some fans see football (not a particular criticism of WJ). Salah, Mane and Firmino cost €100m between them. Diaz has cost about the same as Salah did, and five years later. Jota a similar number. It is signing 'top drawer' players that has cost United - Ronaldo, Cavani, Ibrahimovic, Maguire, Pogba. Big fees or wages, big reputations, fcuk-all end product.

Those front 5 for Liverpool were exceptional signings. Brilliant players brought in for specific roles all of whom have been, or will be, improved by Klopp. Arguably though, the key signings for Liverpool's recent success were VVD and Alisson. Definitively 'top drawer' signings at £75m and £65m respectively, and record transfers in for Liverpool, who've improved the team and other players hugely.

Man United's record signing is Pogba at £90m. Rice would be at least that, Haaland, if they could get him, would be one and half times that. That budget is practically exhausted without even getting a much needed new centre-back. If they could secure those first two, plus a proven manager, then I really think they could battle with Liverpool and Chelsea for Man City's crown. One of those will end up with 4th place in an unbelievably competitive league, and not have done much wrong.

[Mr Angry]

Man United have zero chance of signing Haaland.

[BROB0T]

Man United have zero chance of signing Haaland.

A-them Brother!

Absolutely no chance

[Sanguine]

Does show how some fans see football (not a particular criticism of WJ). Salah, Mane and Firmino cost €100m between them. Diaz has cost about the same as Salah did, and five years later. Jota a similar number. It is signing 'top drawer' players that has cost United - Ronaldo, Cavani, Ibrahimovic, Maguire, Pogba. Big fees or wages, big reputations, fcuk-all end product.

Those front 5 for Liverpool were exceptional signings. Brilliant players brought in for specific roles all of whom have been, or will be, improved by Klopp. Arguably though, the key signings for Liverpool's recent success were VVD and Alisson. Definitively 'top drawer' signings at £75m and £65m respectively, and record transfers in for Liverpool, who've improved the team and other players hugely.

Man United's record signing is Pogba at £90m. Rice would be at least that, Haaland, if they could get him, would be one and half times that. That budget is practically exhausted without even getting a much needed new centre-back. If they could secure those first two, plus a proven manager, then I really think they could battle with Liverpool and Chelsea for Man City's crown. One of those will end up with 4th place in an unbelievably competitive league, and not have done much wrong.

My point was more to question what on earth a club of United's status and reach is doing in terms of scouting and coaching that its only hope of 'competing' at the top table is a hail mary transfer window of Rice, Haaland and <insert other superstar>. What about finding three £40m gems and building over the course of a season or two?

[Loafer]

Does show how some fans see football (not a particular criticism of WJ). Salah, Mane and Firmino cost €100m between them. Diaz has cost about the same as Salah did, and five years later. Jota a similar number. It is signing 'top drawer' players that has cost United - Ronaldo, Cavani, Ibrahimovic, Maguire, Pogba. Big fees or wages, big reputations, fcuk-all end product.

Those front 5 for Liverpool were exceptional signings. Brilliant players brought in for specific roles all of whom have been, or will be, improved by Klopp. Arguably though, the key signings for Liverpool's recent success were VVD and Alisson. Definitively 'top drawer' signings at £75m and £65m respectively, and record transfers in for Liverpool, who've improved the team and other players hugely.

Man United's record signing is Pogba at £90m. Rice would be at least that, Haaland, if they could get him, would be one and half times that. That budget is practically exhausted without even getting a much needed new centre-back. If they could secure those first two, plus a proven manager, then I really think they could battle with Liverpool and Chelsea for Man City's crown. One of those will end up with 4th place in an unbelievably competitive league, and not have done much wrong.

My point was more to question what on earth a club of United's status and reach is doing in terms of scouting and coaching that its only hope of 'competing' at the top table is a hail mary transfer window of Rice, Haaland and <insert other superstar>. What about finding three £40m gems and building over the course of a season or two?

We all know football fans are too fickle for that now, especially for a club like Man United where they need trophies and to compete NOW

[Franchise FC]

Those front 5 for Liverpool were exceptional signings. Brilliant players brought in for specific roles all of whom have been, or will be, improved by Klopp. Arguably though, the key signings for Liverpool's recent success were VVD and Alisson. Definitively 'top drawer' signings at £75m and £65m respectively, and record transfers in for Liverpool, who've improved the team and other players hugely.

Man United's record signing is Pogba at £90m. Rice would be at least that, Haaland, if they could get him, would be one and half times that. That budget is practically exhausted without even getting a much needed new centre-back. If they could secure those first two, plus a proven manager, then I really think they could battle with Liverpool and Chelsea for Man City's crown. One of those will end up with 4th place in an unbelievably competitive league, and not have done much wrong.

My point was more to question what on earth a club of United's status and reach is doing in terms of scouting and coaching that its only hope of 'competing' at the top table is a hail mary transfer window of Rice, Haaland and <insert other superstar>. What about finding three £40m gems and building over the course of a season or two?

We all know football fans are too fickle for that now, especially for a club like Man United where they need trophies and to compete NOW

So back to the half a billion plus then

[BROB0T]

Maguire fcuks up again

Trashford...dogshit!

[URZZZZ]

Maguire fcuks up again

Trashford...dogshit!

Bringing on Mata, Matic and Rashford chasing a goal in a CL L16 is tragic. First two are good footballers but it smacks of desperation (both past it). As ever, Rashford is a waste of time. More and more people are seeing what was obvious years ago, a one trick pony who isn’t good enough if United want to become an established side at the top again

[Loafer]

Very fitting scenes at west ham as yarmolenko scores to knock out the europa leagues most successful team

[URZZZZ]

Moyes is a roundabout washed out manager though isn’t he? How dare he get his team to score from crosses rather than the mundane style of slowly passing it around

Sarcasm aside, do reckon they can go on to win the whole thing, European teams won’t come across many like West Ham, players like Soucek, Antonio etc