The Non - League thread

[tmesis]

I would hope/imagine there will be some tickets left and there'll be a general sale, maybe on the Sunday.

With Reading at home this Saturday, and tickets only available during Saturday's home game, there's no way of getting a ticket without missing that game (which isn't a completely terrible option)

With a personal record at Bracknell home games of W1 D3 L6, they probably wouldn't want me there anyway. My 4-1-1 record away could see me as a lucky charm at a replay though.

[Royals and Racers]

The Toolstation Western League have recieved an email from the Chairman of Bitton AFC stating that they have resigned from the Toolstation Western League with immediate effect

Bitton’s playing record for this season will be expunged and the league table adjusted accordingly.

[Four Of Clubs]

The Toolstation Western League have recieved an email from the Chairman of Bitton AFC stating that they have resigned from the Toolstation Western League with immediate effect

Bitton’s playing record for this season will be expunged and the league table adjusted accordingly.

...I'd tagged this on to my Preview above but as this is quite a salutary news item for STEP05/06 clubs, with clusters of others within the immediate vicinity (much like a lot of our local sides) it's well worth the 'Bump'

...heard/read they'd lost their main sponsors pre-season and with the prime source of funding gone, their entire first team squad have decamped elsewhere with plenty to choose from. There is a plethora of other clubs in that part of Brizzle - : Cadbury Heath, Longwell Green, Keynsham, Telephones, Oldland, Brislington , Hengrove & AEK Boco ...... and I've more than likely missed a couple?

... only a couple of clubs immediately benefit 'points wise' from the 'expungement'
: Welton, whom they'd recently beaten and I think Longwell Gn who were held first or second game of the season ?
(corrn: - was Street 1-1 2nd match)
- they'd only gained 4 points to date - so about another 10 or so will lose out.

Doubt the extra travelling following this season's (and last's) big influx of SW clubs from Devon ... and more tellingly Cornwall, can have helped if funds were tight.
I would expect a lot of the more easterly-based clubs in this league, around Bath and Bristol are casting envious eyes towards the Hellenic for possible salvation. A fair number of those further north around the City, had already been moved across in the last restructure.

I've been to the ground a couple of times and seemed like one of the nicer one's in the area - albeit tricky to get into as it shared with cricket - so on my last visit we needed to thread our way thru the clubhouse to find the turnstiles - sited very close to the boundary.

[Royals and Racers]

The Toolstation Western League have recieved an email from the Chairman of Bitton AFC stating that they have resigned from the Toolstation Western League with immediate effect

Bitton’s playing record for this season will be expunged and the league table adjusted accordingly.

...I'd tagged this on to my Preview above but as this is quite a salutary news item for STEP05/06 clubs with clusters of others within their immediatevicinity (much like a lot of our local sides) it's well worth the 'Bump'

...heard/read they'd lost their main sponsors pre-season and with the prime source of funding gone, their entire first team squad have decamped elsewhere plenty to choose from
(there are a plethora of other clubs in that part of Brizzle - : Cadbury Heath, Longwell Green, Keynsham, Telephones, Oldland, Brislington , Hengrove & AEK Boco ......)

... only a couple of clubs will benefit slightly from their demise too : Welton, whom they'd recently beaten and I think Longwell who were held first or second game of the season ?
- they'd only gained 4 points to date - so about another 10 or so will lose out.

Doubt the extra travelling following this season's (and last's) big influx of SW clubs from Devon and more tellingly Cornwall, can have helped if funds were tight. Expect a lot of the more easterly-based clubs in this league around Bath and Bristol are casting eyes towards the Hellenic for possible salvation. A fair number of those further north around the City had already moved across in the last restructure.

Been to the ground a couple of times seemed like one of the nicer one's - albeit tricky to get into as it shared with cricket - so on my last visit we needed to thread our way thru the clubhouse to find the turnstiles - sited very close to the boundary.

Sorry missed your post.

[Four Of Clubs]

Sorry missed your post.

...no problem at all and allowed me/prompted me to elaborate

...and use 'expungement' and 'plethora' in the same post

[Sutekh]

I see the of non-league seems to be alive and well. After having their FA Cup tie with Ipswich moved to Monday for the telly, Bracknell remain timetabled to then travel to Truro on the following Wednesday for a league game!

Dedicated professionals with all the medical and sporting back up aren’t expected to play games in quick succession like that these days - and certainly not two evening games - so on what planet is it ok to expect it of semi professionals holding down a day job?

Hope it gets postponed.

[Royal Rother]

From the rules of the FA Cup.

The net gate receipts due from a match (except replayed matches in consequence of a breach of the Rules) shall be the total ticket sales for the match less VAT, the travelling (and possibly accommodation) expenses of the Visiting Club, the fees and expenses of the Match Officials, and other match expenses allowed under the Competition Rules

Hotel Expenses
(i) Where agreement concerning hotel accommodation has been reached, Clubs must
confirm the agreement in writing on the Match Arrangement Form.
(ii) Where mutual agreement concerning hotel accommodation cannot be reached, and the Visiting Club considers it necessary or desirable to claim hotel expenses, written application must be made to The Association with a copy to the Home Club at least seven days in advance of the first match. The Professional Game Board shall have the power at its absolute discretion whether or not to grant permission.
(iii) The grounds for making such an application are that it would be necessary or desirable for the Visiting Club to leave its headquarters before 8.00am on the day of the match, alternatively, not be possible to arrive back at its Headquarters within five hours travelling time of the conclusion of the match. Expenses, which may be claimed, if actually incurred, shall not exceed £100 per person for up to 25 persons.
The grounds for making an application are that if the travelling time exceeds five hours which includes a stop of not more than 45 minutes then expenses can be allowed with travelling time based on Auto Route details, as determined by the FA Competitions Office.
(iv) A Club that has been granted hotel expenses by The Association must stay within a 30 mile radius of the ground where the match will be played.

[tmesis]

(iii) The grounds for making such an application are that it would be necessary or desirable for the Visiting Club to leave its headquarters before 8.00am on the day of the match, alternatively, not be possible to arrive back at its Headquarters within five hours travelling time of the conclusion of the match.

I'm not sure which of those two conditions are being met.

Not even the northern section of the M25 is that bad after 10 pm on a Monday night.

Even so, it seems there would be a limit in hotel costs of £2500 (£100 x 25), so barely more than £1 per ticket.

[Royal Rother]

Google Maps says 2hrs 29 mins Ipswich to Bracknell.

45 mins stop on rote allowed, but how the hell have they decided it’s a 5hr journey?

Weird.

Maybe Ipswich applied, Bracknell didn’t respond so approved by default?

Or maybe KSB hasn’t read the rules.

[Sutekh]

Google Maps says 2hrs 29 mins Ipswich to Bracknell.

45 mins stop on rote allowed, but how the hell have they decided it’s a 5hr journey?

Weird.

Maybe Ipswich applied, Bracknell didn’t respond so approved by default?

Or maybe KSB hasn’t read the rules.

The travelling time exceeds 5hr there and back plus the on route stop, can only presume it’s that. Odd rule to have, you’d think away clubs would be responsible for costs as they are in the league.

[Royal Rother]

Google Maps says 2hrs 29 mins Ipswich to Bracknell.

45 mins stop on rote allowed, but how the hell have they decided it’s a 5hr journey?

Weird.

Maybe Ipswich applied, Bracknell didn’t respond so approved by default?

Or maybe KSB hasn’t read the rules.

The travelling time exceeds 5hr there and back plus the on route stop, can only presume it’s that. Odd rule to have, you’d think away clubs would be responsible for costs as they are in the league.

It’s not there and back....

The grounds for making such an application are that it would be necessary or desirable for the Visiting Club to leave its headquarters before 8.00am on the day of the match, alternatively, not be possible to arrive back at its Headquarters within five hours travelling time of the conclusion of the match.

Thing is the moaning from KSB is disingenuous at best - the ceiling on Hotel costs is £2500 and that gets deducted from gate receipts before what is left is split 50/50 with the opposition. So the cost to Bracknell is really only half of the £2500.

And he’s indignantly using that as justification for the £25 ticket price? Poor show from him.

[Sutekh]

Google Maps says 2hrs 29 mins Ipswich to Bracknell.

45 mins stop on rote allowed, but how the hell have they decided it’s a 5hr journey?

Weird.

Maybe Ipswich applied, Bracknell didn’t respond so approved by default?

Or maybe KSB hasn’t read the rules.

The travelling time exceeds 5hr there and back plus the on route stop, can only presume it’s that. Odd rule to have, you’d think away clubs would be responsible for costs as they are in the league.

It’s not there and back....

The grounds for making such an application are that it would be necessary or desirable for the Visiting Club to leave its headquarters before 8.00am on the day of the match, alternatively, not be possible to arrive back at its Headquarters within five hours travelling time of the conclusion of the match.

Thing is the moaning from KSB is disingenuous at best - the ceiling on Hotel costs is £2500 and that gets deducted from gate receipts before what is left is split 50/50 with the opposition. So the cost to Bracknell is really only half of the £2500.

And he’s indignantly using that as justification for the £25 ticket price? Poor show from him.

What has the capacity been set at for the game - presume it’s around 2500 as that was the attendance record for Sandhurst but it could be more - or less?

The ticket price isn’t only covering hotel expenses, there’s also increased energy costs(!), increased stewarding and then policing costs and sometimes plod can decide to be very expensive. In addition there might be some temp. seating put in place but would agree it’s a bit much to blame it all on hotels costs.

While I don’t think the pricing should be as steep as £25 I can’t blame a non league club for trying to maximise the money they make from what might well be the one and only time they get to play a famous top club from tier 3.

Anyway good luck to them and all the other non league clubs remaining in the competition.

[tmesis]

It's seems only 428 turned up for the game today, where you could buy tickets for the Ipswich game...if fact you had to attend to buy a ticket. Unless that figure is a mistake, it sounds like the price rise has backfired massively, although no doubt the online sales tomorrow will reveal Bracknell have a strangely large number of fans living in Suffolk.

[Royal Rother]

Anyway good luck to them and all the other non league clubs remaining in the competition.

Absolutely agree with that sentiment of course.

[Four Of Clubs]

NL results from this w/e

Saturday 22nd October

FA Vase First Round
44 Tring Athletic 2-3 Aylesbury Vale Dynamos
61 Eastbourne Town 6-0 Brook House
62 Crowborough Athletic 4-1 Eversley & California
63 Rising Ballers Kensington 0-5 Harefield United
64 Lydd Town 0-0 Holyport 4-5 pens
65 Peacehaven & Telscombe 4-0 Horley Town
66 Fleet Town 1-2 Colliers Wood United
67 Chessington & Hook United 4-1 Berks County
68 Larkfield & New Hythe 3-1 Edgware & Kingsbury
70 Jersey Bulls 3-1 Bearsted
71 Bedfont 1-0 Redhill
73 Rayners Lane 1-2 Cowes Sports
74 British Airways 1-1 Abbey Rangers 2-4 pens
75 Whitchurch United 0-5 Broadbridge Heath
77 Tadley Calleva 1-1 Guildford City 2-4 pens
79 London Samurai Rovers 3-4 Wallingford & Crowmarsh
80 Newport (IoW) 0-1 Ascot United –att 152
84 Frimley Green 0-7 {SEVEN} North Greenford United
86 Little Common 3-1 Milton United -
87 Street 1-5 Andover New Street
101 Bridport 3-5 Royal Wootton Bassett Town

League
NAT
Aldershot Town 2-1 York City
Barnet 2-1 Maidenhead United
Dorking Wanderers 3-1 Wealdstone
Gateshead 1-3 Woking
Solihull Moors 3-0 Eastleigh
NATN
Brackley Town 2-0 Buxton
Spennymoor Town 2-1 Banbury United
NATS
Dover Athletic 1-1 Farnborough
Dulwich Hamlet 2-1 Hungerford Town att 3,176 – ex RFC academy , Basingstoke, Maidenhead Utd and Oxford City – Nana Owusu opened the scoring for Hamlet. 'Crusaders' goal was a late consolation pen. from Muir.

Havant & Waterlooville 0-1 Oxford City
Slough Town 2-3 Weymouth

SLP-C
Kings Langley 1-1 Alvechurch
SLP-S
Beaconsfield Town 1-2 Tiverton Town
Bracknell Town 6-0 North Leigh att 428 -three goals in each half for ‘Robins’ – 2 each for Grant and Esprit plus English and Sanders on the scoresheet
Chesham United 2-2 Poole Town -‘Generals’ led 2-0 at the break but let it slip and Poole were level just past the hour point. The two sides stay 3rd and 4th.
Hartley Wintney 3-0 Yate Town
Hayes & Yeading United 3-4 Truro City
Swindon Supermarine 1-2 Winchester City - decent place to win for Winch – got 2 in 2 minutes around the 70’ mark – hosts got one back almost immediately.
– ‘marine were 6th. City visit Beaconsfield on Monday night and have the chance to overhaul their hosts and move further away from danger.

Weston-super-Mare 3-0 Hanwell Town
SL1-C
Biggleswade Town 2-2 Kidlington
Didcot Town 1-0 Biggleswade - att 202 – Diddy up to 3rd
Highworth Town 3-3 Harlow Town
Walthamstow 2-1 Aylesbury United
Welwyn Garden City 3-1 Thame United
- Morning’s leaders Ware, are beaten 3-4 at home by rapidly improving Ciren – who are the ‘Railwaymens’ next opponents at the Corinium on Tue night. 'Berko' keep top spot.

IL1-SC
Binfield 0-2 Walton & Hersham - att 221 ’Moles’ sink to 7th
Chertsey Town 6-1 Ashford Town (Middx)
Chipstead 1-2 Guernsey
Marlow 3-2 Bedfont Sports – att 171 ‘Blues trailed 0-2 at HT but turned it around and won it beyond 90’ to stay 2nd behind leaders Northwood
Merstham 1-2 Leatherhead
Northwood 2-0 Thatcham Town ex-‘Moles’, Thatcham and ‘Robins’ striker Josh Helmore with the opener for 'Woods'.
Southall 2-0 Hanworth Villa
Uxbridge 1-2 Basingstoke Town – ‘stoke up to 5th
Westfield 3-1 South Park

CCL-PN
Chalfont St Peter 0-4 Broadfields United
Hilltop 1-2 Flackwell Heath -
London Lions 2-4 Egham Town
Spelthorne Sports 0-0 Reading City
Wembley 2-0 Wokingham & Emmbrook
CCL-PS
Alton 1-3 Raynes Park Vale
Badshot Lea 3-0 Balham ’Baggy Lea’ grab back top spot and still have 3 games in hand on 2nd place CWU
Banstead Athletic 0-1 Knaphill
Farnham Town 0-1 Sheerwater
CCL-1
AFC Aldermaston 1-3 Spartans Youth
FC Deportivo Galicia 1-1 Hillingdon Borough
Penn & Tylers Green 5-0 Cove
Westside 2-0 Sandhurst Town
Woodley United 2-5 Langley Langley take over the lead from Sandhurst

HELL- P
Wantage Town 2-0 Malvern Town decent with for the ‘Freds’ over the recent league leaders
HELL-1
Moreton Rangers 2-2 Abingdon United

SSM-P
Cockfosters 3-1 Risborough Rangers
SSM-1
Burton Park Wanderers 2-2 Amersham Town
Thame United Reserves 4-1 Raunds Town
Winslow United 1-0 Holmer Green

WESS-P
Brockenhurst 4-0 Alresford Town
WESS-1
Fawley AFC 1-2 Ash United
Millbrook P-P Andover Town waterlogged
New Milton Town 2-1 Petersfield Town
Totton & Eling 5-0 Fleet Spurs

[tmesis]

Tickets for Bracknell v Ipswich on sale at 6pm today.

6.20, nothing at all up yet

[AthleticoSpizz]

Reading City quietly sneaking up the league…5 games in hand of some of those above them too.

Might have to take another trip to Scours

[Loafer]

Good to see Seagar and Bowerman playing well at Dorking

[Royals and Racers]

BT Sport are showing for the 1st time 2 matches from the National league north and South
Wednesday December 7th Kidderminster v Chester KO 7.30pm
Sunday December 11th Braintree v Dulwich Hamlet KO 12.30pm

[RFCMod]

Website showing sold out

Tickets for Bracknell v Ipswich on sale at 6pm today.

6.20, nothing at all up yet