Standing at matches

Do you want to stand up at football matches in the present climate without safe-standing areas?

Yes
70
57%
No
52
43%
 
Total votes: 122
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Re: Standing at matches

by Sharpy » 20 Jan 2008 21:53

tbf the stewards tried to implement the no standing in the utd end but its not like its going to work with a stand full of barmies is it...

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Re: Standing at matches

by Rhys The Royal » 20 Jan 2008 22:13

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Y21_Royal Its a disgrace that Utd fans are allowed to stand for the whole game. Could you imagine us getting away with it anywhere? Its gutless from the club, pure and simple. You cannot have one rule for one and another for 2,000 others.


Yes, we'd get away with it if 2000 people stood.

Sadly, only a few do, hence they are easily picked out and ejected.


Plus of course, home fans have something to lose - being allowed back in for the next match. For away fans, there's hardly any comeback on what they do at away matches. There's no system of reciprical bans or anything like that.


But Reading fans don't stand away either.

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Re: Standing at matches

by paultheroyal » 20 Jan 2008 23:41

The demand for standing is incredible!!

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Re: Standing at matches

by Platypuss » 21 Jan 2008 01:38

paultheroyal The demand for standing is incredible!!


Agreed, you just can't argue with figures like this:

Should safe-standing areas be allowed at Tier 1 and 2 football clubs?

Yes 102 (82%) No 22 (18%)

Glad to see you coming round at last.

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Re: Standing at matches

by RoyalBlue » 21 Jan 2008 08:32

Sharpy tbf the stewards tried to implement the no standing in the utd end but its not like its going to work with a stand full of barmies is it...


And how many were quietly apprehended in the concourse at half-time and ejected as the club would have us believe happens?

And will the club actually carry out the threat of further reducing the ManU ticket allocation next time they visit because of the persistent standing of their fans and consequential threat to safety? Or will loss of income be regarded as more of an issue than this particular safety breach?

By some peculiar law of physics, it is clearly only really unsafe if home supporters stand!


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Re: Standing at matches

by NWL Royal » 21 Jan 2008 10:25

Chelsea away is the best oppurtunity for all of us to stand. If those who go want to sit, go to the front of the stand..

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Re: Standing at matches

by Gloria Gooner » 21 Jan 2008 14:25

I would prefer not to stand all the way through the game, but often, particularly last Saturday, I stand for a large proportion of the game, otherwise I can't see anything. Standing areas would at least give the option to those who want to stand throughout.

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Re: Standing at matches

by paultheroyal » 21 Jan 2008 18:27

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paultheroyal The demand for standing is incredible!!


Agreed, you just can't argue with figures like this:

Should safe-standing areas be allowed at Tier 1 and 2 football clubs?

Yes 102 (82%) No 22 (18%)

Glad to see you coming round at last.


As this poll suggests - demand is incredible.

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Re: Standing at matches

by Baines » 21 Jan 2008 19:40

PauLOL. Doing your bit to keep us all amused I see.


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Re: Standing at matches

by tom_t69 » 23 Jan 2008 11:11

I do reckon there should be a all standing area because there is a large section of fans who want to stand and then you wouldnt get in the way of fans who want to sit and everyones a winner.

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Re: Standing at matches

by T.R.O.L.I. » 23 Jan 2008 11:14

I would venture that there will be a lot of Reading fans standing at Everton - primarily because:

a) the first 5 or 6 rows are at ground level so you can't see further than about 15 yards and,

b) the seats are so cramped together than anyone over 5' 10'' will have problems sitting down.

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Re: Standing at matches

by madreadingfan » 27 Jan 2008 21:37

T.R.O.L.I. I would venture that there will be a lot of Reading fans standing at Everton - primarily because:

a) the first 5 or 6 rows are at ground level so you can't see further than about 15 yards and,

b) the seats are so cramped together than anyone over 5' 10'' will have problems sitting down.

i shall be standing at everton....,until some old geezer tells me to sit down :evil:

but whoever wants to stand up at home matches should move to y24, y25 and y26 thats where i will be moving

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Re: Standing at matches

by Jerry St Clair » 28 Jan 2008 08:06

I did a completely unscientific survey on MOTD at the weekend and noticed the vast majority of fans of the following clubs standing throughout their games:

Newcastle
Man City
Tottenham (plus large swathes of Man Utd fans)
Middlesbrough
Millwall
Chelsea

I honestly think there's a huge cultural shift happening with away fans at the moment. More and more are standing persistently. I reckon about half the away fans we've seen at the Mad this season have stood throughout the game. This is, of course, bad news for fans who want to sit, but the FLA seem insistent on refusing to accept this is happening and relaxing their rules to allow designated standing and seating areas.


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Re: Standing at matches

by cmonurz » 28 Jan 2008 13:05

Have I misunderstood? Wouldn't any 'safe-standing' areas have seats removed?

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Re: Standing at matches

by anR » 28 Jan 2008 13:08

cmonurz Have I misunderstood? Wouldn't any 'safe-standing' areas have seats removed?


Are you talking about the cost? Doing this would all be free, of course!

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Re: Standing at matches

by Platypuss » 28 Jan 2008 13:15

cmonurz Have I misunderstood? Wouldn't any 'safe-standing' areas have seats removed?


The German ones still have seats.

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Re: Standing at matches

by Rawlie19 » 28 Jan 2008 13:33

Jerry St Clair I did a completely unscientific survey on MOTD at the weekend and noticed the vast majority of fans of the following clubs standing throughout their games:

Newcastle
Man City
Tottenham (plus large swathes of Man Utd fans)
Middlesbrough
Millwall
Chelsea

I honestly think there's a huge cultural shift happening with away fans at the moment. More and more are standing persistently. I reckon about half the away fans we've seen at the Mad this season have stood throughout the game. This is, of course, bad news for fans who want to sit, but the FLA seem insistent on refusing to accept this is happening and relaxing their rules to allow designated standing and seating areas.

Different rules for the FA Cup. You can get away with almost anything, like, for instance deliberately kicking someone in the stomach.

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Re: Standing at matches

by The Wang Meister » 30 Jan 2008 18:29

Everyone is just following what United fans started to do in the early 90's, stand in seated areas.

I honestly believe that if United fans started to sit then everyone would follow, just like how all firms now wear black.

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Re: Standing at matches

by Royalshow » 30 Jan 2008 18:48

Given that we are unlikely to take 5,000 to wigan.I assume that those of us that want to stand will be able to congregate at the back of the stand and remain standing throughout the game with out being hassled (?)

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Re: Standing at matches

by Rev Algenon Stickleback H » 30 Jan 2008 20:41

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cmonurz Have I misunderstood? Wouldn't any 'safe-standing' areas have seats removed?


The German ones still have seats.
Some German ones can be "converted" to seats, but many Germany terraces are just ordinary terraces, albeit built to more modern standards - and there are no "standing areas" in seated sections.

Typically because there are terraces already, the people that want to stand are standing already, and far less people feel the need to stand up in seated areas.

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