BRIAN MCDERMOTT SIGN HIM UP

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by prostak » 18 Jan 2010 06:09

Ideal
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Didnt you want me to give Rodgers X ammount of games?? Yet here you are, spouting off?

Look in the mirror, hypocrite.


I don't know. At this stage it feels like a the difference between having a rookie piloting your disintegrating plane or the bloke who sticks his hand up when they ask 'Does anyone have any flying experience?' over the loudspeakers. I'm waiting to see whether this is disaster movie or Airplane!, however.

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by winchester_royal » 18 Jan 2010 08:49

So the guy steers us towards 2 excellent performances against a Liverpool team that both times included Torres and Gerrard, almost manages to get us a point just 3 days after an AET result against the form team in the division, and yet this is somehow proof that we need a journeyman manager like Sanchez or Dowie (who TBH are the most accomplished of our realistic targets)??????

Christ.

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by Wycombe Royal » 18 Jan 2010 10:02

Pseud O'Nym I have had neither the time, nor the inclination, to play computer games since Jet Set Willy came out for the Spectrum. I would be interested to know what you consider the purpose of forums like HNA? to be, if not for "keyboard warriors" to express their opinions about the players and management of football clubs?

I said it "is the argument of", I never said you couldn't express your opinion, just as I can argue mine.

The issue is you are basing your opinion on the Howard/Karacan midfield pairing based on 47 minutes of football. I doubt there is a manager out there who would change a team based on that (hence my Football Manager comment).

We were playing against a Forest team unbeaten in their previous 17 league matches and kept a clean sheet in 6 of their previous 7 matches. Any manager out there would have played a defensive midfielder ahead of anattacking one, and especially one (Howard) who has received a lot of criticism from the fans for not doing much. It is extremely unlikely that playing him wouldhave had any positiver impact and had McD done so and we had lost then he would have been criticised for not playing a defensively stronger midfielder.

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by Royal Lady » 18 Jan 2010 10:34

I reckon BM will get the job. Heard JM on BBCRB this morning, saying that an announcement won't be made yet - but he didn't give any indication that he was looking for anyone - he praised BM and NG. Said the Liverpool win had given RFC a good advert - he's looking for a billionaire to buy us - he might stay on as President of the club if the new owner was happy with that. Receipts are down by 60%, hence no money. I don't understand the 60% thing mind you.

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by brendywendy » 18 Jan 2010 10:36

gate receipts?

eh?


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by CMRoyal » 18 Jan 2010 10:41

winchester_royal So the guy steers us towards 2 excellent performances against a Liverpool team that both times included Torres and Gerrard, almost manages to get us a point just 3 days after an AET result against the form team in the division, and yet this is somehow proof that we need a journeyman manager like Sanchez or Dowie (who TBH are the most accomplished of our realistic targets)??????

Christ.


Yes, I was pondering this at the weekend. Brian has been faced with a particularly tough set of fixtures at the start of his tenure and although I still can't get the Plymouth performance out of my head (it was that bad, I still can't envisage going to another away match this season), I can't see any of these bog-standard managers improving what have been otherwise encouraging performances against some of the better teams in the division (plus the Cup games of course). Irvine or Fergie Jnr, yes, but not Dowie or Southgate or the like. Let's see how we do against the teams around us when we play them. That's what will really matter - takes me back to that Plymouth game again, I suppose!

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by Royal Lady » 18 Jan 2010 10:45

brendywendy gate receipts?

eh?
That's what I took it to mean - but surely we're not 60% down on attendance?

Peachey read out a couple of texts from people saying he didn't care about the club anymore. He responded that of course he cared. But he didn't give any indication whatsoever what he's going to do about our current situation. So, I'm guessing, we won't be spending any money. :cry:

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by brendywendy » 18 Jan 2010 10:53

knew that already though


i guess with the gates down, and ticket prices down it may constitute a 60% reduction on last year
maybe

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by Wycombe Royal » 18 Jan 2010 10:56

I think he is talking about dropping from the Premiership to the Cmampionship, not last season to this season.


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by Royal Lady » 18 Jan 2010 11:02

Wycombe Royal I think he is talking about dropping from the Premiership to the Cmampionship, not last season to this season.
He might be, but he didn't make that very clear and I still don't see a 60% drop in attendance even from Premiership.

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by Wycombe Royal » 18 Jan 2010 11:07

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Wycombe Royal I think he is talking about dropping from the Premiership to the Cmampionship, not last season to this season.
He might be, but he didn't make that very clear and I still don't see a 60% drop in attendance even from Premiership.

No but prices dropped, attendances dropped, and hospitality reveunes fell through the floor.

And when does he ever make anything clear?

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by Elmer Park » 18 Jan 2010 11:19

I like Brian McDermott and he will always have a small place in the Club's history after the events of last Wednesday. I haven't really had a problem with his tactics but it has concerned me that he was unable to get the players up for the Plymouth match or for the first half of the Forest match although at least he seems to have managed to make a difference at half time on that occasion.

Next Saturday will prove nothing as the players will lift themselves again for the F A Cup but if they don't play the next two league matches like cup ties then the Chairman needs to make an immediate appointment of someone who might lift them out of their comfort zone.

Even if McDermott gets the job I think he needs someone in his coaching staff who can play the bad cop.

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by Royal Lady » 18 Jan 2010 11:33

I still think we missed a trick in not keeping Murty on as a member of the backroom staff - he could have got his coaching badges or whatever and been instrumental in geeing the lads up etc.


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by Wycombe Royal » 18 Jan 2010 11:43

Royal Lady I still think we missed a trick in not keeping Murty on as a member of the backroom staff - he could have got his coaching badges or whatever and been instrumental in geeing the lads up etc.

He wanted to keep playing though and with his injury record and relatively high wages it was never going to happen......

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by Franchise FC » 18 Jan 2010 13:53

Elmer Park I like Brian McDermott and he will always have a small place in the Club's history after the events of last Wednesday. I haven't really had a problem with his tactics but it has concerned me that he was unable to get the players up for the Plymouth match or for the first half of the Forest match although at least he seems to have managed to make a difference at half time on that occasion.

Next Saturday will prove nothing as the players will lift themselves again for the F A Cup but if they don't play the next two league matches like cup ties then the Chairman needs to make an immediate appointment of someone who might lift them out of their comfort zone.

Even if McDermott gets the job I think he needs someone in his coaching staff who can play the bad cop.


Maybe we should appoint BMcD to manage the cup run and a more experienced motivator for the league campaign.
simples !!

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by Northern Git » 18 Jan 2010 18:18

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Wycombe Royal I think he is talking about dropping from the Premiership to the Championship, not last season to this season.
He might be, but he didn't make that very clear and I still don't see a 60% drop in attendance even from Premiership.


The last season in the Premiership we had an average gate of 23,499 over the season. Last season we averaged 19,995 and this season, after 12 games, we are averaging 17,211. I will let someone with more time than me sort out if the average gate falling by 6,288 per game and the reduced ticket prices equates to 60% fall in revenue. I suspect not.

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by Royal Lady » 18 Jan 2010 18:19

Well precisely, N G, that's what I was getting at.

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by Ian Royal » 18 Jan 2010 18:26

Lets see. 23,500 x £23 (guesstimate price was about £32 for adults, STHs obviously work out cheaper and we have plenty of concessions) vs 19,000 x £18

540,500 vs 342,000
37%?

Not including corporate stuff of course. Or catering / merchandising sales.

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by midfield diamond » 18 Jan 2010 18:28

Royal Lady I reckon BM will get the job. Heard JM on BBCRB this morning, saying that an announcement won't be made yet - but he didn't give any indication that he was looking for anyone - he praised BM and NG. Said the Liverpool win had given RFC a good advert - he's looking for a billionaire to buy us - he might stay on as President of the club if the new owner was happy with that. Receipts are down by 60%, hence no money. I don't understand the 60% thing mind you.


JM was spouting the usual 'positive' garbage this morning -- BM & NG the best thing since sliced bread and the team are wonderful. Rewind a couple of months and he was saying exactly the same thing about Brenda. Why he bothers with all this spin I don't know; perhaps he caught it off Brenda. At least BM tells it how it is.
I think BM will get the job eventually, I couldn't make up my mind if JM still had him on probation or whether he was just taking a few days to screw the salary deal down to a minimum.
He did also hint that there could be some movement in the transfer market at the end of January but because of the lack of funds the DoF would have to be 'creative'. This means that we'll be looking for the 1 in a million bargain (i.e. the new Doyle ); acquiring players no better than what we have already; or getting more cast offs like Griffin on loan.

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by Ian Royal » 18 Jan 2010 18:29

Or pimping our unnecessary luxuries like Kebe & Marek on someone.

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