TSI - The Promises, Policies & Progress Thread

[Wizard]

Where woul we be without pasteurised milk and watts of electricity?

[Silver Fox]

That Harvey Milk had such a ridiculous ego

[Cobi]

Madejski only named it after himself to feed his massive ego. Most normal (modest) people wouldn't name it after themselves.

This stupid myth keeps coming up. In actual fact, somebody else (I think it was Nigel Howe?) suggested that it be named after the chairman and he wasn't keen on the idea at first.

Some of you need to get over your green-eyed jealousy of John Madejski.

Nigel Howe, who is in SJM's pocket.

SJM being the business man that he is should have seen the opportunity to make some money through stadium sponship when the ground opened, just as Bolton did and Stoke. Instead he wanted his name all over the stadium, just as he did the hotel, and the now bothched plans to have more hotels down the M4 bearing his name..

[Alexander Litvinenko]

Madejski only named it after himself to feed his massive ego. Most normal (modest) people wouldn't name it after themselves.

This stupid myth keeps coming up. In actual fact, somebody else (I think it was Nigel Howe?) suggested that it be named after the chairman and he wasn't keen on the idea at first.

Some of you need to get over your green-eyed jealousy of John Madejski.

Nigel Howe, who is in SJM's pocket.

SJM being the business man that he is should have seen the opportunity to make some money through stadium sponship when the ground opened, just as Bolton did and Stoke. Instead he wanted his name all over the stadium, just as he did the hotel, and the now bothched plans to have more hotels down the M4 bearing his name..

Not quite true. They tried to sell the ground naming rights, but didn't have any takers. Why would they for a Tier 3 club reached down the end of a long and winding single-track dirt-road, as it was at the time.

So the thought process was "we have to call it something, why not after the owner?" But it wasn't for want of trying to sell it at the time.

[Royal Lady]

So if SJM had *really* wanted to, he could have sold the naming rights ages at any time since then?

[Alexander Litvinenko]

Of course. Why not?

[Cobi]

So if SJM had *really* wanted to, he could have sold the naming rights ages at any time since then?

Yes, of course. It was his club, his stadium. There was always money to be made from naming rights, even when we had our annual black holes. But selling players seemed a better idea than say an additional £1m a season sponsorship. So it wouldn't have kept the Long's etc, but it would have made a significant difference.

Bolton's was £1m a year about 10 years ago. Will have been worth more to them before relegation last season.

[Royal Lady]

^ Thanks Cobi - that's what I was thinking.

Even when we had to cut our cloth, we could have sold the naming rights to bring in a bit of money to help out. But, for whatever reason, he chose not to.

[Alexander Litvinenko]

You're forgetting that "value" isn't just worth hard cash.

The value to someone who is a relentless self-publicist of having their name so high-profile is considerable, especially if they have a raft of other business interests too.

But once they divest those other interests and have become an "established" name, the value of that profile-raising name isn't so high to them.

[Stuboo]

Madejski only named it after himself to feed his massive ego. Most normal (modest) people wouldn't name it after themselves.

This stupid myth keeps coming up. In actual fact, somebody else (I think it was Nigel Howe?) suggested that it be named after the chairman and he wasn't keen on the idea at first.

Some of you need to get over your green-eyed jealousy of John Madejski.

Nigel Howe, who is in SJM's pocket.

SJM being the business man that he is should have seen the opportunity to make some money through stadium sponship when the ground opened, just as Bolton did and Stoke. Instead he wanted his name all over the stadium, just as he did the hotel, and the now bothched plans to have more hotels down the M4 bearing his name..

I know. What a failure SJM's tenure at Reading has been right? (sarcasm) Ridiculous criticism of a man that has achieved so much.

[Man Friday]

Madejski only named it after himself to feed his massive ego. Most normal (modest) people wouldn't name it after themselves.

This stupid myth keeps coming up. In actual fact, somebody else (I think it was Nigel Howe?) suggested that it be named after the chairman and he wasn't keen on the idea at first.

And you believe this???!!!

[Davezk]

Well, he has invested a lot of money in various projects, so I don't see the problem.

BTW, it's not a unique case here. Other stadiums have been named after chairmans too, Kassam Stadium in Oxford being an example.

Rather it being called the Madejski Stadium than the Emirates (or some other sponsor) Stadium anyway.

Most things named after other people are done so as a suggestion by someone else... not by the person themselves. I very much doubt stands and stadia bar ours and Oxfords stadium (2 exceptions) are named by the person themselves. Anyone who does such a thing obviously has a bit of an ego.

We should commerate (wrong word?) people because we want to, not because we have it forced upon us.

[Stuboo]

We should commerate (wrong word?) people because we want to, not because we have it forced upon us.

Interesting point. That's how it works a lot of the time yes.

People often name things they own after themselves too. Donald Trump has his Trump Towers. I don't have a problem with it. If they own it they can call it what they want as far as I'm concerned. But does this self-naming mean they have a big ego? Probably. I don't care about that either, if they're successful they're going to be confident types. But if you don't like people with big egos you're not going to like it, however. Does that say more about you or them? Who's to say. I don't know.

[akranes]

I remember AZ talking about how; we aim to be a top 10 (or 5 was it?) club within 5-6 years... high ambitions... etc.
But how are we going to do that? I don't promote being negative all the time, but I just can't see us as a 'big' club, without a major overhaul...
Thoughts?

[melonhead]

i believe he plans a major overhaul, done gradually over 5-6 years

[windermere_royal]

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=113727

[akranes]

My bad, never venture far into the other boards....

[mr_number]

My bad, never venture far into the other boards....

You should try Anything Else, it's full of thoughtful, intelligent discussion.

[Divvy]

I remember AZ talking about how; we aim to be a top 10 (or 5 was it?) club within 5-6 years... high ambitions... etc.
But how are we going to do that? I don't promote being negative all the time, but I just can't see us as a 'big' club, without a major overhaul...
Thoughts?

Becoming a top ten side isn't that big a step. Our biggest problem is getting rid of the players that played way above themselves last season, and more so the fringe players that weren't good enough to get in the side last season, and that aren't going to take us forward at this level. In that bracket, harsh or not, I include Harte, Gunnarsson, Tabb, Hunt, Church, HRK, McAnuff, Leigertwood.

January needs to see a few more come in, and one or two go out, and more of the same in the summer until this first eleven and then squad is a lot stronger. At the moment I look at the back-up and fear any injuries. Even the first team rings alarm bells.

[melonhead]

lol at mcanuff and leigertwood.

two of our best players. if theyre not good enough, then no one is