Best Player in the World Ever

[6ft Kerplunk]

I think Pele includes bicycle kick from Escape to Victory in his total.

Should count double tbf, I never thought it would be topped but then along came Yakou at the weekend

Neither as good as Trevor Morley's. FACT.

[Tony Le Mesmer]

I'd vote for Maradona personally.

I think he is the only player ever to more or less single handedly carry a team to win the World Cup and the best domestic league in the world.

[BR0B0T]

I'd vote for Maradona personally.

I think he is the only player ever to more or less single-handedly carry a team to win the World Cup and the best domestic league in the world.

it's bullshit about that Argentina squad being a single man team...would go with building a team around him

They conceded 5 goals the whole tournament, two of them from set plays in the final. Passarella captained in 1978 and played at CB in Italy (the best domestic league in the world apparently)

River Plate won the Copa Libertadores that year. Three players in the National Squad and an indicator of the strength of Argentinian football. Valdano was voted best foreign player in La Liga winning the league and a UEFA Cup with Real Madrid.

Argentina won it in 1978...basically they're not mugs! It's just lazy research

[Ascotexgunner]

Madonna for me. After him I can never decide. Messi and Ronaldo never faced the hatchet men like Pele and Madonna did. Wonder if Messi had been so prolific if it was the 60s,70s or 80s rules. I saw George Best at Fulham once when I was a child. Incredible balance.
One player who never gets mentioned though who I saw live is Ronaldinho. At his peak he was something else, the passing the trickery, the quick feet, and the strength. I always remember him running through John Terry as if he wasn't there at Stamford Bridge one time.

[BR0B0T]

Madonna for me. After him I can never decide. Messi and Ronaldo never faced the hatchet men like Pele and Madonna did. Wonder if Messi had been so prolific if it was the 60s,70s or 80s rules. I saw George Best at Fulham once when I was a child. Incredible balance.
One player who never gets mentioned though who I saw live is Ronaldinho. At his peak he was something else, the passing the trickery, the quick feet, and the strength. I always remember him running through John Terry as if he wasn't there at Stamford Bridge one time.

Mentioned Ronaldinho earlier in the thread.

His youtube highlight reel is exactly the same as Messi's.

Ridiculous skill and close control at an incredible pace.

[Simmops]

Madonna for me. After him I can never decide. Messi and Ronaldo never faced the hatchet men like Pele and Madonna did. Wonder if Messi had been so prolific if it was the 60s,70s or 80s rules. I saw George Best at Fulham once when I was a child. Incredible balance.
One player who never gets mentioned though who I saw live is Ronaldinho. At his peak he was something else, the passing the trickery, the quick feet, and the strength. I always remember him running through John Terry as if he wasn't there at Stamford Bridge one time.

Mentioned Ronaldinho earlier in the thread.

His youtube highlight reel is exactly the same as Messi's.

Ridiculous skill and close control at an incredible pace.

He didn't keep it up though. Zidane for me.

[Franchise FC]

I'd vote for Maradona personally.

I think he is the only player ever to more or less single-handedly carry a team to win the World Cup and the best domestic league in the world.

it's bullshit about that Argentina squad being a single man team...would go with building a team around him

They conceded 5 goals the whole tournament, two of them from set plays in the final. Passarella captained in 1978 and played at CB in Italy (the best domestic league in the world apparently)

River Plate won the Copa Libertadores that year. Three players in the National Squad and an indicator of the strength of Argentinian football. Valdano was voted best foreign player in La Liga winning the league and a UEFA Cup with Real Madrid.

Argentina won it in 1978...basically they're not mugs! It's just lazy research

Have I understood your quote ?

You’re saying Maradona because he carried them to the 1978 World Cup ?

He didn’t play in the ‘78 team

[Sanguine]

I think he's saying that the players Maradona played with in '86 were no mugs, not least the '78 World Cup winning captain.

[BR0B0T]

I think he's saying that the players Maradona played with in '86 were no mugs, not least the '78 World Cup winning captain.

Yep this ^^^

cheers Sangers

[BR0B0T]

Didn't Maradona get dropped from the National Team after that massive fight he started when at Barcelona



Fantastically well-timed flying knee tbf

[6ft Kerplunk]

Best flying knee during a pitch riot is Boban taking out the policeman just as Yugoslavia is at breaking point.

[Winston Biscuit]

[Ascotexgunner]

Madonna for me. After him I can never decide. Messi and Ronaldo never faced the hatchet men like Pele and Madonna did. Wonder if Messi had been so prolific if it was the 60s,70s or 80s rules. I saw George Best at Fulham once when I was a child. Incredible balance.
One player who never gets mentioned though who I saw live is Ronaldinho. At his peak he was something else, the passing the trickery, the quick feet, and the strength. I always remember him running through John Terry as if he wasn't there at Stamford Bridge one time.

Mentioned Ronaldinho earlier in the thread.

His youtube highlight reel is exactly the same as Messi's.

Ridiculous skill and close control at an incredible pace.

He didn't keep it up though. Zidane for me.

Yeah, that was the problem, his career nosedived. I'd say there were 5 seasons where he just looked untouchable.
Of course there are many Brazilians who will tell you that actually Tostao was better than Pele.