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BFTG Wycombe

by PieEater » 23 Aug 2025 18:56

Despite the late goal it was quite a good day out, The Hour Glass decided to make it home fans only so we hiked to the Bird in Hand. Quite a decent prematch with a lot of Reading fans there.

Wycombe have put a bit of effort into hosting the away fans with foods stalls and a beer tent (same as last time except it wasn't raining) and a generally pleasant prematch area.

We seemed to dominate the game and then leak a goal with their only attack, then it was all Reading again. A cracking header then another Wing shot we were deservedly ahead at HT.

Decent atmosphere in the away end, esp with the new song for Kyerewaa

It seemed inevitable we'd leak a goal and it feels like 2 pts dropped, but after Bolton maybe I take that.

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by Carlos » 23 Aug 2025 20:29

Such a frustrating result. Wycombe were there for the taking, first half display was best of the season by a country mile and the scenes when wing scores were epic.

We looked really comfortable until about 70 minutes and then hunt tried to act as an established manager. Brought off Ahmad who was our best defender and the wingers, brought on Garcia who did zero tracking back. If that was hunts intention then that's on him but Garcia looked like he wanted to be anywhere else and Jacob then got doubled up on. How when you're 2-1 up with two minutes left you can leave a player free in the box six yards out. Where was our midfield helping the defence, we should have stuck ten men behind the ball and instead it was a four on four. We had three players trying and failing to stop a cross and left no one to defend.

Hunt cost us with those substitutions and managed to turn what looked a comfortable win against a struggling side to a challenge just to get a draw. It was simply like for like changes with no consideration of tactics. Also why did we come out for the second half fives minutes early? Bizarre as we were winning 2-1.

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Re: BFTG Wycombe

by Royal_jimmy » 23 Aug 2025 20:30

The performance was good

The result was meh

The referee was absolutely atrocious

That is all

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Re: BFTG Wycombe

by Crowbar6753 » 23 Aug 2025 20:39

A positive step in the right direction, two draws away to Bolton and Wycombe isn't to bad at all. Now we need to put in another positive performance against Vale next weekend and slowly start the climb towards the middle. Noel mentioned a possible three new players next week? Personally, i think three is to many, get a striker in and call it a day.

Pereira - 7 Couple of decent saves.
Ahmed - 6 Ok game, looks better than Abrefa going forward, think Abrefa is still first choice. Yids will not be needed this season.
Burns - 6 Potential is there, but seems to have a telling mistake every game. 3rd choice for me.
Williams - 8 Will be class signing for us. If he and O'Connor can click this should be a great pairing.
Jacob - 7 Came in for some stick for the first few games but i think he will be a good signing. Way better than Dorsett.
Wing - 8 That's the Wing we know and love. With Elliot in the middle he can play the QB role perfectly.
Savage - 6 Much better, but still a way to go before he reaches last seasons form.
Elliot - 9 Class, new contract please!! made things tick and so clever on the ball. Its funny that Noel couldn't see this earlier!
Kyerewaa - 6 Prefer him on the left wing. Steady and has that quality to scare defenses.
Camara - 7 One of his better performances, stunning header for the goal. Hopefully he can kick on from here.
MOM - 6 Much better today, on another day he could have had a hattrick. I think Elliot was a big part in his better showing.
Subs - 5 All of them. Were probably needed but really didn't change the game.

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Re: BFTG Wycombe

by Bristol Paul » 23 Aug 2025 23:51

Carlos Such a frustrating result. Wycombe were there for the taking, first half display was best of the season by a country mile and the scenes when wing scores were epic.

We looked really comfortable until about 70 minutes and then hunt tried to act as an established manager. Brought off Ahmad who was our best defender and the wingers, brought on Garcia who did zero tracking back. If that was hunts intention then that's on him but Garcia looked like he wanted to be anywhere else and Jacob then got doubled up on. How when you're 2-1 up with two minutes left you can leave a player free in the box six yards out. Where was our midfield helping the defence, we should have stuck ten men behind the ball and instead it was a four on four. We had three players trying and failing to stop a cross and left no one to defend.

Hunt cost us with those substitutions and managed to turn what looked a comfortable win against a struggling side to a challenge just to get a draw. It was simply like for like changes with no consideration of tactics. Also why did we come out for the second half fives minutes early? Bizarre as we were winning 2-1.


Substitutes cost us, none of them were great. Garcia getting bigged up doesn’t help. He’s not that special and I agree doesn’t track. Abrefa leaves us wide open as well, massive spaces in the counter,


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by andrew1957 » 24 Aug 2025 01:39

What I find hilarious is that if Hunt doesn’t make subs pretty early in the game, some on here rip one out of him. Equally when he makes subs others rip one out of him. This is ridiculous. The subs today made sense. Don’t forget our players had a long trip to Bolton and a day less between the games so bringing new players on made sense. On this occasion it didn’t work out but it was still the right thing to do.

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by Hound » 24 Aug 2025 07:14

With the caveat that I wasn’t there, I wouldn’t argue with those subs and they made sense on paper

Sometimes subs work and reinvigorate the side (Bolton). Sometimes the same changes have the opposite effect. But as someone said he prob had to make them as players were tiring on a warm day after a long midweek trip

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by Sutekh » 24 Aug 2025 07:23

Sorry it’s the management’s inexperience at fault again. First round of subs were to freshen things up I expect that’s why they were pretty much like for like so that’s acceptable. It’s the later subs which were the issue as they’d appear to be a very half hearted attempt to see out the game with Fraser coming on - who is a DM so that’s fine - but Doyle on was just weird in the circumstances as I’d have left it at just Fraser or brought on Dorsett too and looked to pack the space out given there was less than 10 minutes to go. Consequently a bit of a confused message to the players and we paid for it.

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Re: BFTG Wycombe

by Royalcop » 24 Aug 2025 07:54

Decent performance overall, Elliot was the key player for us - though a few times he kept dribbling when an earlier pass might have created a shooting opportunity.

Always felt that at 2-1 we needed a third goal to see the game out, thought Wing had it with a long range effort and MoM unlucky to hit the bar.

I thought the subs were generally fine by Hunt but they didn’t match the energy levels of the players they replaced and our intensity dropped as a result.

Still need another option up front. I thought MoM looked OK today but is very raw and clearly lacking confidence. He needs to be coming on as a sub to get experience not starting every match.

Don’t like to talk about must-win games but the Vale game certainly feels like one.


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Re: BFTG Wycombe

by Snowflake Royal » 24 Aug 2025 08:46

Citicism of the making of the subs, and Abrefa in particular, is bizarre.

In the 5-10 minutes before the first set Ahmed was beaten with ease at least twice. Wycombe were growing in dominance, and the front press was dropping off significantly with the forwards tiring.

Abrefa's been our best player so far this season, and has been defensively more solid than Ahmed (who has been better going forward).

Fraser is the obvious sub to see out the game. Bit of a surprise he came on for Savage, but we've seen a Wing, Savage, Fraser midfield lacks balance. Plus Fraser almost won the game back for us in the last minute. Doyle was a like for like replacement of Elliott, who had put a real shift in.

It's not like there were other better options on the bench. And making subs to eat up time and see out the game is standard practice. People wouldbe rightly raging if Hunt hadn't made the subs and we'd conceded because everyone was tired.

Sometimes, you do everything right, and it doesn't work.

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by tidus_mi2 » 24 Aug 2025 09:35

Should have got 3pts here and 0 at Bolton, so I guess we're a point down based on deserved outcomes?

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Re: BFTG Wycombe

by WestYorksRoyal » 24 Aug 2025 09:45

I'm going off second hand accounts and am not BFTG, but it sounds encouraging. Elliott finally started and had a good game, so hopefully keeps the shirt. MOM didn't score but looked like a L1 player as opposed to a competition winner. Patterns of play starting to form. Late equaliser of course v v frustrating but it's a young team that needs to learn, so it's good to have a performance where the ingredients are there.

More winnable games coming up. A couple of wins and some attacking reinforcements and we'll suddenly be looking up.

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by tidus_mi2 » 24 Aug 2025 10:08

WestYorksRoyal I'm going off second hand accounts and am not BFTG, but it sounds encouraging. Elliott finally started and had a good game, so hopefully keeps the shirt. MOM didn't score but looked like a L1 player as opposed to a competition winner. Patterns of play starting to form. Late equaliser of course v v frustrating but it's a young team that needs to learn, so it's good to have a performance where the ingredients are there.

More winnable games coming up. A couple of wins and some attacking reinforcements and we'll suddenly be looking up.

Does sound like Elliot ran out of legs at the end, hopefully he'll be ready to complete a full 90 soon as he has a been influence on games. Might bring the knives back out if we have a terrible performance against Vale.


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Re: BFTG Wycombe

by Gunny Fishcake » 24 Aug 2025 10:10

Our support was bloody amazing yesterday, such a shame about the late equaliser as they so deserved the win and chance to go home very happy

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Re: BFTG Wycombe

by RG30 » 24 Aug 2025 11:48

An improvement on Wednesday night and when you factor in they had an extra day recovery it has to be a good point although really it should have been 3.

Been very impressed with Williams at CB. Very vocal and very much the experienced head we needed. MoM I thought had his best game for us and was unlucky not to score with the header.

Only Rotherham rank worst than us this season on xG and it has to be a concern we are not creating or converting enough good chances. Can't keep relying on Wing to nail a screamer every week. Thankfully Lane is fit again and all being well should play the 90 on Tuesday night.

What was with the steward in the away end and the guy in the wheelchair near the end all about?!?

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by stealthpapes » 24 Aug 2025 12:15

Snowflake Royal Citicism of the making of the subs, and Abrefa in particular, is bizarre.

In the 5-10 minutes before the first set Ahmed was beaten with ease at least twice. Wycombe were growing in dominance, and the front press was dropping off significantly with the forwards tiring.

Abrefa's been our best player so far this season, and has been defensively more solid than Ahmed (who has been better going forward).

Fraser is the obvious sub to see out the game. Bit of a surprise he came on for Savage, but we've seen a Wing, Savage, Fraser midfield lacks balance. Plus Fraser almost won the game back for us in the last minute. Doyle was a like for like replacement of Elliott, who had put a real shift in.

It's not like there were other better options on the bench. And making subs to eat up time and see out the game is standard practice. People wouldbe rightly raging if Hunt hadn't made the subs and we'd conceded because everyone was tired.

Sometimes, you do everything right, and it doesn't work.


Tiredness doesn't just affect the physical performance but also has an effect on e.g. concentration. It's why you do drills for certain routines, so that tiredness doesn't affect your performance in routine tasks as much.

It's also one of the hardest things to track from the sidelines.
"You tired?", "no boss, good to go, boss". Excellent.

Subs are always going to be a gamble, especially given the nature of our squad. I fully expect them to get better as the season goes on.

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