England - the future....

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Re: England - the future....

by Snowflake Royal » 21 Sep 2025 13:20

stealthpapes
BRO_BOT 82 Greenwood: Germany, they made the final; we went out 2nd group stage
86 Robson: Argentina, winners; QF
90 Robson: Germany, winners; SF
98 Hoddle: Argentina, QF; 2nd round
02 Keegan: Brazil, winners; QF
06 Erikson: Portugal, SF; QF
10 Capello: Germany, SF; 2nd round
14 Hodgson: LOL
22 Southgate: France, final; QF

The Euro comps in the 80s and 90s make grim reading for England, tbf to Southgate, at least he navigated the group stage.

04 Erikson: Portugal, final; QF
08 McClaren LOL
12 Capello: Italy, final; QF
16 Hodgson: LOL


I think 08 through to 16 is a special kind of suck. Players were good, we'd been solid recently and yet ...

PS 2012 was Hodgson, Capello resigned in February that year.

We usually got defeated by a higher-ranked (or host nation) team that then made it to at least the semi-final.


That is typically what happens when you lose a quarter-final, yes.

Smirk. :)

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Re: England - the future....

by bcubed » 21 Sep 2025 19:01

stealthpapes In Friendlies/Qualifying, Kane has played 9 games vs those teams and scored 6 - this is close to his overall scoring rate for England
In Nations League, Kane has played 11 games and scored 3
In Major Competitions, Kane has played 8 games and scored 2

So, yeah, against better teams when things matter, he does appear to score less.

The only country I think I've missed that could matter is Belgium (5 games but 2 he didn't play in, the other 3 a WC play off, 2 Nations League)


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Certainly chimes with my gut feeling.

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Re: England - the future....

by Winston Biscuit » 03 Oct 2025 10:35

Squad announcement:
Goalkeepers: Dean Henderson (Crystal Palace), Jordan Pickford (Everton), James Trafford (Manchester City)

Defenders: Dan Burn (Newcastle United), Marc Guehi (Crystal Palace), Reece James (Chelsea), Ezri Konsa (Aston Villa), Myles Lewis-Skelly (Arsenal), Jarell Quansah (Bayer Leverkusen), Djed Spence (Tottenham Hotspur), John Stones (Manchester City)

Midfielders: Elliot Anderson (Nottingham Forest), Morgan Gibbs-White (Nottingham Forest), Jordan Henderson (Brentford), Ruben Loftus-Cheek (AC Milan), Declan Rice (Arsenal), Morgan Rogers (Aston Villa)

Forwards: Jarrod Bowen (West Ham United), Eberechi Eze (Arsenal), Anthony Gordon (Newcastle United), Harry Kane (Bayern Munich), Marcus Rashford (Barcelona, loan from Manchester United), Bukayo Saka (Arsenal), Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa)


headlines seem to be surprise at Grealish, Foden & Bellingham missing out, and Trafford being in over Pope

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Re: England - the future....

by South Coast Royal » 03 Oct 2025 11:41

Grealish has had a few good games for Everton but they make him the main man with players running around covering for him, something that wouldn't happen with England.
The other two haven't played much football so no great surprise really.

I am enjoying Jordan Henderson being picked ,and watching him for Brentford it is obvious he is not yet a busted flush and Tuchel obviously likes having him around.
If Loftus-Cheek gets in then why shouldn't Henderson?

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Re: England - the future....

by WestYorksRoyal » 03 Oct 2025 12:49

No Wharton. Tuchel out.


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